nice game

haha, thanks Zolag!

I did goof and accidentally hit a human at the start of the set. My country was supposed to be a joke.
So I apologize to whoever that was again. I appreciate them resolving the matter diplomatically.

It looks like there could already be some real sand castle wreckers this set though! Beware!

Why would you say that kingme? There are only 18 players this round. 2 people playing with sanction rules. And anyone else that acts out is to be sanctioned right away.

You literally have full clearance to play with 0 turrets. It’s only Ratski that you need to worry about now

I just did a quick scan of the news when I first logged in and saw human on human grabs right out the gate. Usually it's later in the set before you see fireworks, hence my comment.

Who got sanctioned?

OH YOU'D LIKE THAT WOULDN'T YOU! 😂

Leto is sanctioned and i am playing on sanction rules cuz if i hit anyone i get sanctioned

So it's just Leto at this point.
You hit almost every human last set and didn't get sanctioned, right? Nothing to worry about if you play within the defined rules it would seem.

Yes so far only Leto.
There is no defined rules that is the problem. Anyways I don’t wanna get my ass sanctioned so I’ll drop it now cuz if I get sanctioned you can only explore on primary, express and tournament so you might as well never play again.

So I’ll just stfu and hit the heavy in DR bots like a good little boy….

Good luck to you all

good luck mr superfly i hope you can get another top 100

Superfly isn't sanctioned

Buy turrets noobs!

I've heard the whole "people should have more turrets" philosophy before. There was a time I subscribed to it. There was a time that I took part in a co-ordinated takedown of alliance taking on the role of the villain unting the whole server against a common enemy, ostensibly because people "didn't have enough turrets" but I like to think we did a good job generating some entertainment value. Subterfuge & espionage, infiltration of clans, mysterious role playing on AT, finally culminating in a several hundred thousand acres worth of grabs (not to mention the co-ordinated stock stealing) and uniting every clan against us in a full on server war. Sure we were "just suiciders" in many people's eyes, but I think we did it with a little bit of style. When we did our FS, I was a 120,000A casher with $134m NW and 18 days of stock! I did get killed of course, as a Theo I was the missile dump, soaked 323 :) I also continued to pay for it by being repeatedly killed in subsequent resets!

When the dust settled after that ignomous reset, it made me think. What was the purpose of it all? It occurred to me that, if it was just about being offended at other people not having "enough" turrets then that wasn't a particularly useful contribution to the game. How many turrets would be enough. What if they all run with 1m turrets. You can still break em right? So they should have MORE turrets. What if they run with 10m turrets, well I guess I could still break 'em. So...

The whole thing seemed somewhat arbitrary, does it become about just making sure you don't have the least turrets, or is it more about being lucky to not get spotted with less than a neighbour. Neither of those seem like game mechanics that differentiate on skill, it seems more like RNG. Furthermore if everybody runs with the same number of turrets, then it technically makes netting easier because now military expenses reduce the size of any stockpile. Everyone is affected more or less equally, so the final standings aren't likely to change the only difference will be everyone's finishing NW will be X% less. To what end?

Moreover, what exactly was my problem with how many turrets other people had? Why did I care? I couldn't answer that question. I don't actually think I did on reflection - one of the guys in our group seemed very motivated by this aspect. I was more sold on the idea of putting on a decent "server bad guys" performance, that we would wage an unconventional war that didn't follow the same "rules" that everyone normally did. I certainly wasn't interested in running a mid-suicider country that makes a few grabs and gets promptly killed. We ended up creating a "hidden" tag full of good netters with big ass countries that farmed the entire server. It was something a bit different, and I liked that.

It seemed to me that the "buy more turrets" motive lacked real purpose. So I pretty much reconciled myself with the idea that it was a futile endeavour.

Now I'm not trying to tell you how to play your country, but I am curious as to whether you have managed to come up with a reason as to why you want people to buy turrets. Some sort of achievable end goal, some final objective that you can categorically say (or even quietly think to yourself) "I did it!"

Perhaps I lack imagination. There are plenty of games I have played where other people have come up with their own unique challenges, and I've enjoyed seeing the creativity in this process. Going along for the ride as they take up the challenge, rooting for them to overcome the odds and prevail in their quest to wrangle the foo, such that the bar condition is met in some way that nobody had ever thought to do before.

In this quest to make people buy turrets, what would be your success criteria, what is the end goal? Maybe I'm just too simple to see it. If I understood what it was though, I think I'd more enjoy watching how you go about it.

This whole thing is silly, just remove the ability to PvP already, the next scenario is returning players finding easy land, getting it then getting banned for playing the game....What if I choose to play a round then get frustrated with the DR on the bots and instead of giving up like I've done in the past I decide to hit those low defense fatties?

BAN!

Leto just run with 0 turrets the netters will hit you. happens to me every time that I play all-x with no army. I have the fat netter hit me cuz he see me low NW. generally they break GDI and try to jump out of range but they get surprise butt seks

Hey, you just gave me a great idea haha when does the new set start?

The ability to leave GDI doesn't change your ability to war anyone.

Whether you leave GDI or not, the rules that apply to you hitting other countries are identical, because the other countries are in GDI.

The only difference is 1) you can hit other non-GDI countries, of which there usually are not many, and 2) other countries (in GDI or not) can FS you.

I call BS. No decent "netter" plays like this on express, because they know it is -EV. Whilst it can be possible to make a success of hitting and jumping out of range, this generally comes at the cost of your finish. You have to essentially throw the set. Netters know this.

There is an outside chance you can make a human hitting strat possible if you single tap enough people and utilise game mechanics well, but it's very risky and there isn't some potential outsize benefit to justify it. I have tried, as I am sure others have.

Therefore, if people are hitting you it is most likely because they are morons that can't net (usually along with some story about how they are solving world hunger, fixing the economy and ending all war).

Or, they are having a temper tantrum, which is really just a subset of the above.

Or, it is a simple mistake. e.g.

PS Aug 5, 12:24 sandstorm (#61) Lions Gate (#70) 234 A

In which I forgot to check the "Exclude Non-NPC" box on the search screen. It happens from time to time, it could default to checked at the start of the set, but I think the fact that it doesn't probably says something.



Every 5 days. You don't have to wait long, another one will be along shortly. If you are just running a spam country to target netters you don't even need to have full turns, it's a zero effort strategy that any braindead monkey can ape into.

Be careful that you don't fall into the trap of thinking your idea is special. It probably isn't — but I'm interested to see what you have planned... maybe you can prove me wrong!

KoH your logic is flawed here.
Nobody took away the ability to attack players. Even SF just said he does it. This statement that you get, "banned" for hitting a player is simply not true. SF hit most human players last set and Slagpit confirmed on this very thread he was not "banned" or sanctioned.

Leto
Did you report this "coordinated" kill run? If you did, they would be purpled. I've seen it multiple times on this very server. Was it actually "coordinated", or did you hit many human players and they all hit back? This isn't coordinating if they didn't actively work together. Hell, if you would have farmed me I would have started killing you. Someone else could see these hits and jump in later if they so choose. It's your actions that allowed them to do this. It's much more likely that they saw the news and joined in after the fact because you weren't killed in the initial run. I suspect you know this is a possibility. At the end of the day, if the timestamps are together it's an easy purple, and report them. If not, it's sour grapes from a griefer who got what they deserved by their own actions.

Your right kingme, it was countries I hit . But you are confusing my trolling for being a griefer. I was by no means trying to ruin someones gameplay experience.

There is zero tolerance for players lying about game staff actions in an attempt to stir up drama or cause trouble.

Is it though? Sanction is just a fancy word for ban, you will be punished for farming players, that's what I'm reading into all of this, as I said before, eliminate the ability to farm players, make the server like coop and change the description of the game 🤷

Don't worry, I'm not Ratski and his "neighbor"

Yeah, I had you down as being able to netgain ;)

If you farm multiple players with the clear and sole purpose of ruining the game experience for no gain of your own, that would lead to sanctions. Farming a singular player is not going to get you sanctioned. Unless you somehow found out the players country somehow every set and kept repeating it. That would probably do it.

This whole "sanctioned" thing is being played out as something it simply isn't. If you don't play like a complete fluff you have nothing to worry about. You can still attack humans, you can still war humans. Nothing has been stolen, they are not the victims here.

It's a solo server, people that get farmed should fight their own battles instead of having mods/devs step in and police, we all know how this sanctions policy worked out when applied in Team server, it won't last is my point then back to square 1 except with less players .....like Team......and eventually will get shot down......🤷