EE PatronOct 29th 2011, 18:17:55
@hanlong, my 22k was also added up and included the ghost acres, because as your teammate has already gained ghost acres from his hits on sanct, why should you get L:L +ghosts from him? It's one of those small details (10k acres of detail) that is worth mentioning.
You're right though, this is off topic. The topfeed was horribad and poor taste. I didn't mean to get off on the issue of two-stepping for retals, because we know it is necessary for some cases.
In fact, I didn't mention any topfeeds on LaF originally, but you did in the post where you alluded to me being a hypocrite. My "slightly political message" was about Pang/PDM and their crappy grabs which was unrelated to any of the specific topfeeds in LaF's news.
I guess I have troubles with "ur slightly political message you sent alongside a" not so veiled insult. By all means, let's have discussions and use the news and facts to come to a conclusion. We're rational people, but you tend to put meanings in my post which are not there in order to show some sort of bias I may have. I can tell you now, I am not a big fan of LaF, but I gladly call these things against any alliance because I dislike the falsehoods which have become rampant on AT.
Again, I apologize for the off topic posts. In regards to the thread, I agree with Enshula on many aspects. I believe land trading is lame on the alliance server. I support it on FFA. The difference, you use 16 of your own countries to the best of your ability on FFA, on alliance you are best benefited by finding someone you can use (abuse?) to your advantage.
I made a thread on the B&S boards quite a while back to look for solutions but no one was interested. The first step is for the administration to decide the hierarchy of "acceptable gains." That is, should the mechanisms of land trading out produce bottomfeeding? If that is their decision, then we can accept it, stop that discussion and move on to political means of curbing the behavior (such as the negative view of market buy outs and mass aiding on alliance server).
The admin has never made any statement about their wishes or if they will make changes in the future. As such, it is up to the server to decide policy (presumably with force and not just AT debate).
tl;dr
Topfeeds are universally horribad.
Land trading is exceedingly lame on alliance.
Detah to the land traders.
You're right though, this is off topic. The topfeed was horribad and poor taste. I didn't mean to get off on the issue of two-stepping for retals, because we know it is necessary for some cases.
Originally posted by hanlong:
i just didn't like ur slightly political message you sent alongside a very valid point.
In fact, I didn't mention any topfeeds on LaF originally, but you did in the post where you alluded to me being a hypocrite. My "slightly political message" was about Pang/PDM and their crappy grabs which was unrelated to any of the specific topfeeds in LaF's news.
I guess I have troubles with "ur slightly political message you sent alongside a" not so veiled insult. By all means, let's have discussions and use the news and facts to come to a conclusion. We're rational people, but you tend to put meanings in my post which are not there in order to show some sort of bias I may have. I can tell you now, I am not a big fan of LaF, but I gladly call these things against any alliance because I dislike the falsehoods which have become rampant on AT.
Again, I apologize for the off topic posts. In regards to the thread, I agree with Enshula on many aspects. I believe land trading is lame on the alliance server. I support it on FFA. The difference, you use 16 of your own countries to the best of your ability on FFA, on alliance you are best benefited by finding someone you can use (abuse?) to your advantage.
I made a thread on the B&S boards quite a while back to look for solutions but no one was interested. The first step is for the administration to decide the hierarchy of "acceptable gains." That is, should the mechanisms of land trading out produce bottomfeeding? If that is their decision, then we can accept it, stop that discussion and move on to political means of curbing the behavior (such as the negative view of market buy outs and mass aiding on alliance server).
The admin has never made any statement about their wishes or if they will make changes in the future. As such, it is up to the server to decide policy (presumably with force and not just AT debate).
tl;dr
Topfeeds are universally horribad.
Land trading is exceedingly lame on alliance.
Detah to the land traders.