Jun 11th 2025, 23:18:13
Originally posted by Servant:
Originally posted by Slagpit:
With respect to the Alliance server, I don't see anything wrong here? Monsters was hit by someone with a grudge against their tag. They successfully defended their tag and killed the aggressor. They can take pride in doing so. What should have gone differently?
Let me attempt a response.
I have always advocated, that just as coop server does this, that on alliance server, no one can leave protection, unless a member of a vetted alliance.
Said alliance should be required to have a minimum of 5 members. ( I would have said 10-15 back in the day.)
You want to start a new alliance, establish it with the server mod, as a recognized alliance. That way each and every alliance, has to take on responsibility for their members. This eliminates most of the suiciers, as they'll be know for who they are since we can now have player history and accomplishments accessible.
If you're a new person to the game, get recruited by a vetted alliance.
Let allianice be about alliance vs alliance, individual suiciders have no part of the game. That was established long ago with when RD went from untagged to tagged.
We have mechancics, we didn't have back then to enforce this,
The history of the game, shows that's how this server has evolved.
And this would be for the good of the game.
Now, a group of suiciders could all choose to band together into one alliance. Then the other alliances would have the choice to address it or ignore and hope. But then at least they have the choice, vs a single person going after a group.
with alliances being smaller it's much more difficult to take out a suicider these days. I once took out the whole top 10 in a tourney game, so a friend could win (Iris from NLS). many of our alliances are now at or less than 10. So I think this issue is even more important. LCN had an spy op teams, that would take out any suiciders, thus limiting damage to the alliance, and we often helped others like Monsters when they had suiciders. but you could that at 120 members, you can't do that at 10.
I'm just saying the history of the server argues for this, and the game mechanics are now possible. And with the smaller alliances, this is more important to address this than ever.
Suicers can go suicide in Primary, where it's all 1 v 1.
I would say every alliance takes on responsibility for their members anyway, or should?
that's part of being in an alliance?
Sometimes, that aslo involves alliances removing members who don't live up to the rules and expectations of said alliance.
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