kinda surprised this hasn't come up yet

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Oct 16th 2015, 1:33:20

if there is intelligent life out there, then it means they are smart enough not to contact us.

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Oct 16th 2015, 1:39:00

of course, but it's probably pretty hard to hid construction of a dyson sphere (assuming that's what it is, and I know it's a very long shot)

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even if they wanted to contact us how would they? unless they have found a way to contain anti matter to actually warp space to make the trip which is very doubtful in the first place, just because we are not alone in our universe doesn't mean we are not alone. We are alone in our little neighbourhood nothing gonna happen everything too far away.

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Oct 16th 2015, 4:51:08

parts of our planet were too far away once upon a time.

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Oct 16th 2015, 5:00:31

lol our planet is nothing even compared to our solar system, that start is 1500 light years away (14,191,200,000,000,000 KM's) our sun is 150,000,000 KM's from earth, the oort cloud basically the physical edge of our solar system is 1,125,000,000,000 km's away and its taken voyager decades to get their, even though our sun is relatively young in the universe we had an edge with evolution thanks to our moon and its size and orbit, very unlikely such a pattern would repeat so close to us in the universe. I could just keep going on but I have turns to play -_-

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Oct 16th 2015, 5:34:03

All I know is it'll be interesting one way or the other when the radio telescopes get pointed in the right direction.

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Oct 16th 2015, 5:50:13

I would like to quote someone I consider a friend:

"On one hand, I am expecting some boring naturalistic explanation for that in a few months.

On the other hand, it would be really exciting if this is really the first astronomical mega-construction ever observed. "

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Oct 16th 2015, 6:01:44

Originally posted by drkprinc:

doesnt change what i said. trust me, i understand the physics of space travel and distances along with known statistics. known being the operative word.

it is incredibly ignorant to think you know how the universe works, and not very scientific. question everything, you know next to nothing on a universal scale. a bird cant comprehend calculus just like humans cant comprehend their place in the universe. yet, hopefully.

edit: i dont understand why you keep using kms when speaking on an astronomical scale below light years. use AU like any other scientist. unless your wiki research didnt teach you about AUs

Edited By: mrford on Oct 16th 2015, 6:11:34

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Oct 16th 2015, 6:51:38

yeah I could use AU but how many people here are gonna understand easier to put a number on it, and I don't know how the universe works no one does, but we have come along way in understanding pretty damn well that if we had the power to do so we could make our own.

and to your edit don't use wiki that often for anything probably more rare actually to use it all. those numbers I threw up I used my windows xp calculator using the keyboard shortcut and multiplied from what I already knew

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Oct 16th 2015, 8:33:55

T'was once a planet occupied by folks just like us. Then the libtards took over. They wanted everything given to them. They wanted free love, free medical, began aborting the population before it could grow. Most of all they wanted piece spread throughout the world. Then, the radicals took over and destroyed the whole planet. Then again, I could be wrong.
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Oct 16th 2015, 11:33:57

The star is orbiting two black holes, one of which is also orbited by a pulsar. That pulsar is orbited by Donald Trump's home planet, which is surrounded by his ego cloud.

Mystery solved.

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Oct 16th 2015, 13:24:59

I refuse to believe that there are alien civilizations just waiting to find us and visit us and have anything to do with us. Let's face some reality here, folks.

Perhaps the Universe is NOT expanding, perhaps we are shrinking, same outwardly observable effects, right?

Eventually, if that is in fact the case, we will shrink into nothing and just wink out. :)

So, since we are shrinking and everything apparently gets further and further away, it will ALWAYS be too far for us to get there, and whatever, if anything is there to get here.

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Oct 16th 2015, 13:27:26

I could have sworn that article was about the possibility of us discovering them. Not the other way around.

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Oct 16th 2015, 14:44:35

who says we haven't been discovered yet?

Patience: Yep, I'm with ELK and Marshal.

ELKronos: Patty is more hairy.

Gallery: K at least I am to my expectations now.

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Oct 16th 2015, 14:47:14

Originally posted by drkprinc:

Maybe you should wiki run on sentences then. Lol. That fluff was hard to read.

Either way, assuming something is insurmountable simply because the technology and physics arnt understood yet is a pretty crappy mentality. Progress was never made with a mindset like that. Traveling across oceans was once insurmountable. It was an analogy, not a direct comparison. That was my point.

You sound more like the flat earth mentality than the exploration mentality.

Edited By: mrford on Oct 16th 2015, 14:52:46

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Oct 16th 2015, 15:11:48

have any of you idiots not watched any of the following documentaries? star trek star wars or stargate

well if youd smarten up and watch them you'll find out that we'll eventually discover faster than light travel

its not a matter of if, but a matter of when. source - WATCH THE DOCUMENTARIES

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Oct 16th 2015, 15:29:08

Don't forget the more modern documentary, Interstellar!

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Oct 16th 2015, 15:29:23

This is an incredibly random and amusing thread though :P

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Oct 16th 2015, 16:19:51

Originally posted by Cerberus:

The universe has been observed to be expanding. Things are getting farther apart, which means it's expanding, not contracting (when things would be getting closer together).

It's taken trillion of years to get where we are and the universe will be around for trillions more. There are more stars in the universe than specks of sand on a beach. We've already observed dozens of earth-like planets, some in the habitable zone.

I mean...you have to really be a raving lunatic to think we're the only lifeforms in the entire universe.

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Oct 16th 2015, 16:37:02

billions*

and there is a theory that once the universe is done expanding, it will start to contract, and once it gets all the way in it will blowed up again in another big bang. but yeah, right now it is expanding. google red shift.

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Oct 16th 2015, 16:43:41

I rounded up to the nearest trillion. stfu.

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Oct 16th 2015, 16:44:33

Originally posted by TAN:

Originally posted by Cerberus:

cerberus is the type of raving lunatic who would take a scoop out of the ocean with a cup and say there are no such things as whales because there are none in his cup.

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Oct 16th 2015, 17:04:04

yeah ok ford lets fast forward a few thousand years when we can succesfully put organic material into a warp bubble then talk about possibilites we could easily send a probe in few decades that far but not anything that could easily break down

and tan *put trife some reason in first post* trillions of years? what universe are you from? according to the background radiation just over 14billion. and a round up would to the nearest million and no I will not STFU

and ford with dark matter and other high energy matter decaying into dark energy the universe will expand faster and faster it won't contract at any point by the time dark energy has no effect gravity (just electromagnetism) would have nothing to act on.

Edited By: drkprinc on Oct 16th 2015, 17:06:22

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Oct 16th 2015, 17:05:31

1000 years is nothing in the cosmic time scale. not to mention your pessimism to advancment. you are limiting your scale, thus limiting your possibilities.

also, your reading skills are making me doubt your knowledge. as is your disregarding of theories with no hard evidence just to substitute them with other theories.

Edited By: mrford on Oct 16th 2015, 17:07:51

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Oct 16th 2015, 17:06:59

well a theory with more hard evidence then a theory with a lack of would be the theory I would go with.

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Oct 16th 2015, 17:09:03

billions of years, whatever. it'll still be billions more before the big crunch. It's dumb (and supremely arrogant) to think we're the only lifeforms in the universe.

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Oct 16th 2015, 17:09:18

Originally posted by drkprinc:

well a theory with more hard evidence then a theory with a lack of would be the theory I would go with.

thus limiting your scope and your possibilities. there was more support for the earth being flat a few hundred years ago.

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Oct 16th 2015, 17:22:17

their is difference between being skeptical and and realistic then dilliusional, nothing is impossible but just because its possible doesn't mean its plausible

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Oct 16th 2015, 17:23:50

This has got to be one of the dumbest threads on these forums. LOL

The worst part is I contributed to the stupidity that has run rampant here.

Mea Culpa, Mea Culpa *flog* *flog* *flog*

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Oct 16th 2015, 17:25:10

the amount of energy required to put a low mass object very small in size just a few metres by few metres and most the mass being a generator of some kind to create even a slight warp bubble is more then our sun puts out every second at its core. the realism around warp drive is beyond our scope of capabilities at the moment. We have made unstable ones on a nano scale with an effect no greater then what a snail could do in a few seconds.

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Oct 16th 2015, 17:35:31

That's not even true anymore - you're talking about the unfeasibility of the Alcubierre drive. One of the biggest criticisms is that it would take a ridiculous - an impossible - amount of energy to make it work, but that assessment has already been revised.

I mean, it would still take a ridiculously large amount that isn't realistic, but every year that changes.

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Oct 16th 2015, 18:10:08

Originally posted by drkprinc:

their is difference between being skeptical and and realistic then dilliusional, nothing is impossible but just because its possible doesn't mean its plausible

yet. your view is counterproductive, and if more had it we would stagnate as a species. thankfully that isnt reality.

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Oct 16th 2015, 18:11:34

Originally posted by drkprinc:

if you want to be taken seriously you are going to have to communicate better than that paragraph. that is like stabbing myself in the eyes to read. i read it 3 times before i understood your point.

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Oct 16th 2015, 18:39:20

My view gets people going to actually try, thus I never have to do any work because others are doing it to prove me wrong and why would I want to make an easy reading sentence is absolutely no fun in that!

taken seriously? since when and why and where and how would I ever want that?

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Oct 16th 2015, 18:40:38

most people want to be taken seriously when talking about their scientific opinions.

http://www.troll.me/...luffer-can-you-use-it.jpg

Edited By: mrford on Oct 16th 2015, 18:44:24

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Oct 16th 2015, 18:44:59

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bounce but it doesn't explain how the universe is expanding at an incrementally faster rate.

I believe we are more of a simulation myself, call it what you want.

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Oct 16th 2015, 19:20:02

trifecto forgot galactica where they travelled from other side of universe to earth.

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Oct 16th 2015, 19:21:00

ford this is a forum in a game and one the forums that has the most fluff posted on it out of them all I know what I know and thats all I care about not what others think but I will post a bunch of fluff just to get you riled up :P

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Oct 16th 2015, 19:26:01

Originally posted by Trife:

So glad I not the only person who knows "warp speed"

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Oct 16th 2015, 19:28:34

Originally posted by drkprinc:

what?

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Oct 16th 2015, 20:15:22

just keep reading it over and over :P if you want I'll make one that has even more runoff then a broken waterspout :P keep ya too busy to play >.>

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Oct 16th 2015, 20:22:26

It would be funny if you weren't that bad at english anyways. Instead it is just kinda sad to watch you try to play it off as trolling.

Anyways, good luck with that. I can see now the scope of your knowledge is on par with your punctuation and grammatical mad skillz. Appathy limits you.

Edited By: mrford on Oct 16th 2015, 20:24:26

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Oct 17th 2015, 15:31:10

I believe the words 'heretic' and 'blasphemy' would be used with how I understand the zoo hypothesis in comparison with certain pieces of literature :)

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Oct 17th 2015, 16:03:19

sorry mr ford i'm not writing an essay or going for marks here so punctuation with they grammar out the window it can fly with all the cares I do not give :P

you obviously can't see anything of what I know, you are not me (very simple and obvious) I can visualize and simulate in my head an exact replica of a universe coming into being and growing and know exactly what is at play to cause everything happening from the accretion of growing planets to way magnetic forces generate gravity and keep atoms together and also keep them apart from others.

again doesn't matter what you say nobody takes you serious here ;)

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Oct 17th 2015, 18:07:39

It does't matter what you see in your head if you are incapable if communicating it in an understandable way. But I'm glad that in your head you are the greatest scientist on the planet. You go girl.

Either way, your last post made you sound like a scitzophrenic. Good luck with that.

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Oct 17th 2015, 18:11:22

Originally posted by BladeEWG:

Originally posted by Trife:

So glad I not the only person who knows "warp speed"

Isn't this the same as the plot to GalaxyQuest? :) Just sayin...

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Oct 17th 2015, 18:19:02

OMG, it just occurred to me. BladeEWG is from a technologically advanced alien civilization that has intercepted old re-runs of Star Trek, Babylon 5, Star Wars, etc.

Hey, BladeEWG, buddy. :) You good here, or what? LOL

Relax bro, you'll have a stroke.

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Oct 17th 2015, 20:21:32

Ford I was showing you more then 1 way to troll a troll ;)

and I have no desire to teach people they want to learn the deep roots of physics they can do it themselves I don't have the time for that.

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