SemperFi 315 $751,188,746 $2,384,726
NBK 246 $99,781,537 $405,616

appears SF is now doing the beat down?

wasn't the net worth almost even when it started?
and with XI jumping in, the #s started about even didn't they?

Am I missing something? Im never been a war person.

Kill stats..

things you are missing:

#1 SF got the fs (and a pretty good one, they killed about 100)
#2 They are getting FA from outside tags
#3 They just got somewhere around 100mil nw from tag jumpers

shouldnt your police kill the tag jumpers?

Apparently the police doesnt do his job :)

and hi mrford :) doing good pwning Ares hehe...

nah walding is gonna detag them so our po po doesn't have to kill them :)

SF was doing the beatdown from the start :P

SF NW was higher, not by a ton mind you, as they were storing turns, while NBK for the most part was playing them. SF's NW rose after their FS, while NBK's fell by about 1/3.

NBK is losing true enough, but a damn good distance from being done fighting.

ya im not sure what that guy was tryin to accomplish with bringin theos into the tag that were within yalls range. also whoever did those biohazard ones in xi is a retard. i refer you to the all missiles at one target

not really, kemo. those have been very effective countries for what they're trying to accomplish.

how exactly is nuking and cheming the same target effective? your destroying land youve already knocked down

Not gonna defend nukes, as demonstrated to SF, knocking down their land makes your target stronger :P

I have to say sorry on the detag. I can still do it but it appears hes missed my PM. I will even FA K4F some :).

Bottom line. My time to play this game when from hours a day to minutes a day.

I pretty much gotta disinvolve myself from the usual amusing stuff.

i try

The FS took 70 countries and NBK didn't do a bad job with the CS. As for FA, there has been none otherwise I wouldnt have been killed every time I left protection.

1 string got FA that i know of and from my understanding it was squished right after.

Who is this 2nd troy??

Lol k Walding, but I don't want any FA, it doesn't matter a whole lot to me, not as if a few extra pennies will let my country live once it moves up in NW :P

from the looks of it:

NBK got the FS last set, took out a huge amount, said it was a mediocre amount, said SF did a great counter.


Then this set NBK got FS'd , lost a mediocre amount, said it was a huge amount, and did a great CS as they had turns saved from inactivity or prepping for war with SF.



in first 12 hours, SF "FS"

SemperFi
Attacker Defender Hits Kills HPK
SemperFi NBK 14,447 70 206
Total 14,447 70 206
NBK, XI
Attacker Defender Hits Kills HPK
NBK SemperFi 3,791 23 165
Total 3,791 23 165




next comes the 24 hours stats , showing the CS + allied aid.

SemperFi
Attacker Defender Hits Kills HPK
SemperFi NBK 16,852 78 216
SemperFi XI 3,659 16 229
Total 20,511 94 218

NBK, XI
Attacker Defender Hits Kills HPK
NBK SemperFi 8,843 39 227
XI SemperFi 1,744 16 109
Total 10,587 55 192


so the 'net' loss during the FS/CS was a difference of about 40 countries. yet NBK exaggerates the difference now but last set said the difference was negligible when it was about the same. don't get me wrong, i like NBK's warring and hope to someday war them again. but it seems to me that considering how good both sides are and the true lack of craptalk here on the boards (cerberus doesnt count, does he?) i would say NBK should chalk this up to a formidable opponent, difference in size or not.

and synoder, if they were getting outside aid still, could you prove it? i see one SF clan member already acknowledge they received 1 set of FAs from a single allied clan. then that stopped? K4F is the only NBKer who seems to be unbiased. Too bad synoder and co post louder.

FS is 24 hrs so I said they killed about 100 and they killed 94. I wasn't looking at the stats when I posted which is why I said "about" and 94 is certainly about. As for the FA, after I took the proof to both tags leaders and they brushed me off so I stopped looking cause it wasn't going to do any good. Here is what Aquaview's response was after I brought it to him: "this war was between you and us you brought others into this and now we we do whatever it takes to beat you fast. we could have beat you alone as we are winning this war anyways but a close war doesn`t prove as much as a quick war."

SF leaders knew it was happening and endorsed it, so why would I think it would stop?

even if FS is 24 hours long, that means your claims last set against the same opponent seem to be just pestering. 40 country difference hardly was a game changer in either war. it all came down to activity, target selection and turns. looks like NBK was killing restarts so early on they seemed destined to lose this one.

and really SF? you needed external aid for this win? although they could've called in an ally if they wanted, i see no purpose in continuing the FA other than to seem weaker than they are. why have higher numbers, activity, better target selection and still require FA from allies. if they stopped, good on them. if their leaders are all like aqua then they are sad.

I dont remember the stats from the last set's FS but it seems like we were up roughly 40 kills or so after 24hrs. Your right about activity tho, activity is the most important factor in winning a war especially against a bigger tag or after eating a FS. Killing restarts was pretty much the only option other than just playing out turns on our restarts. When our restarts from the fs come oop we had already lost nearly 50% of our tag and of those remaining several strings were inacitve. We simply just didn't have enough breakers for all our finishers. For the most part all our breakers were using their turns breaking. We do have a problem with people not having good country builds tho and that has been an important factor as well since they aren't able to break very effectively.

NBK had about 200 and some odd countries above 1mil NW (Breakers) before FS. NBK after FS had a bit over 100 (XI added another 40 to that). SF before FS had 330 and some odd above 1mil NW. After FS they had about 270 countries above 1mil.

Numbers aren't equite exact, but you get the gist of it. After the FS, SemperFi had more then double the amount of breakers that NBK and XI had. Even if NBK had a 1.5:1 kill ratio of breakers after that, we would still lose all else being equal. We did manage to pull almost a 1:1 until we ran out though, which you cannot knock NBK for target selection for that.

This was late enough in the set where breakers mattered, as opposed to OOP war, where tis more of a mutual slaughter.

At the moment as it is, NBK is killing original SF countries every day. even though we have nothing over 1m nw, we are killing 2-6m nw countries all the time, and this war will even out if SF doesnt keep restarting

can I also mention, that other false tags like SemperfL and DIE have killed around 60 NBK countries, while our police have been unable to respond, so we have had to kill these ourselves.

make that 67 countries we have lost due to outsiders from this war.

i think last set you forget they had 30% more when we hit them..after our FS they were still bigger.
this set they had even more then that before they hit us.

not sure why everyone things semper is doing such a great job...you can be 100% guaranteed that if NBK hit a clan 35% smaller then us before our FS they would be all but tag killed within 24h

and that's the fallacy that is NBK. you have a grandiose mentality that makes you imagine you are nearly immaculate. instead of trying to spin it in your favor, recognize that SemperFi aren't the only alliance who are tired of NBK's garbage treatment of netters. you wonder why you don't have allies? XI came to help, and are great for it. but don't act as if you didn't get the chance to pact SF before this war. your foolishness is what's getting you killed.

SF had a great FS against a clan smaller than them. SF has also had a lot of help from "untaggeds" either riding SF coat tails or outright being asked to help.

SF hasn't proven anything except that they think that numbers are everything and that untagged "help" is acceptable to their war efforts.

That's just what it looks like from the outside, and who can really blame NBK for asking XI to help them?

What does it "prove" to hit NBK when you know you have the number advantage and have plans to get your friends to help you with their untaggeds seeing that NBK's police wont be able to touch them?

There's a ton of bullfluff here and I'm not saying it's good or bad, but in all honesty, SF has (unknowingly or not) set a table that is gonna come back to haunt them. The tag will not be around in 3 rounds.

And Waldo.. You should tell your kids to shut their fuxcking mouths because their tiny taste of victory is gonna start tasting like rectum if they continue to gloat.

You and I both know that.

Semper is impressing me, regardless of FFAT posts or any untags coming in

Dragon if you like the ESD tag. You should tag your 16 NBK.

(Waldo)
I have to say sorry on the detag. I can still do it but it appears hes missed my PM. I will even FA K4F some :).
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As if an FA pack would be any help.. lol