Obviously misinterpreted. We created the "WAR" tag to imply that "WE ALL RETIRED" <-----WAR
...and then, all of the spies that we placed in M4D began informing us of their bad intentions. We were looking for a nice, peaceful, retirement until M4D once again had plans to ruin it so we had to FS one day before their plans to FS us.

Such violence!!!

It's a game with less than 100 active players, you need to outnumber, FS and have spies inside an organization? go outside and touch grass. relax and enjoy life sometimes. I'd be scared to think what happens when the game is finally retired. you folks are likely to mass sudoku

You need some cream for your chapped hiney

took me about 2 seconds to find a country name I recognized in m4d that has been in sol *forever*

30 years of diddling each other, Mercs and SOL finally merge into the very, VERY creatively named W.A.R. Why is that not the headline?

You'd make a great living making up new crap stories for Hollywood

Yall have fun.

Same to you mate!

Hey no being civil!

TAN, It's 2025. Stop being a weakling and get PDM to fight for once. You can only hug so many trees :d

I've been averaging 90 unfired missiles each set, and happy to keep them that way if the rest of PDM gets to do what they prefer

Coz everybody diddles.

I dont mind being outnumbered nor do i mind they got they FS just makes things more interesting and more fun i think. Sides i recognize quite a few names left over so im glad to see you guys stuck it out for this long.

And 40 of those people are trying to kill you. Sucks to suck

I'm convinced at this point that you guys:
- print out screenshots of your kills to hang up on the wall
- have a shrine of mehul up somewhere in your homes
- hold weekly meetings to discuss how amazing and great you guys all are

I'm pretty sure they bukake the screenshots of the kills ....

Total Randy Marsh moments, or so I hear

Totally true. You are just jealous that we do not allow you in our weekly meetings.

This.

Brother if that's the case, you don't need this game. You could just create a little JavaScript app using chatgpt to create an earth2025 emulator where you can net for the rest of your life. No interaction whatsoever. No fear of getting your country killed. Whats the point otherwise? You have a group full of ex-PDM members get double banged every set by mercs/sol and you guys sit on the sidelines twiddling your thumbs. Put them missiles to use lol.

Go to the earthempires wiki and read up on Paradigm/Sanctuary if you forgot your history.

We've never sought war before. We'd defend ourselves if we had to but rarely did we ever go on the offensive. Enjoy your war!

I respect you man, but you're out of order on this.

Let's talk about WHY relations between M4D and Paradigm are so strained shall we?

Let's talk about your alliances leadership trying to put around that you somehow "own" Paradigm.
Your alliance's leadership trying to put around that Paradigm is "your netting arm"
Your alliance's leadership seemingly trying to poach our members, and consistently trying to subsume us into M4D.

Lets talk about how, when you were supposed to be our police whilst we were at war with Mercs, instead of killing the suicider that hit us and we passed on, you actively recruited and supported in your war room during that set, in a DIRECT PISS IN OUR FACE, and a direct breach of pact terms with both us AND mercs? By rights, we could have voided pact there and then, we chose not to.
That same player we ended up having to kill ourselves.
That you then tried to spin to us about how "you couldn't kill him so you recruited him instead".
As an alliance that is supposedly our friend, that's pure disrespect right there.
None of this has, at any point been addressed, and your leadership is actively still trying to merge us with you as recently as THIS SET.

Let's look a bit further

Your own alliances downright shady politics with ATSucks, attempting to use them as a patsy to set up a sucker move on SoL when you were allegedly trying to set up an "even numbers war".

Playing the victim then and claiming it's not fair when you FAFO'd and ended up with both hitting you after SoL carved through ATS as well.

Cross retalling on Mercs last set, knowing that it would lead to a fight with them, rather than trying to sort out some diplomacy.
straight up running a KR on SoL without even talking to them over Academus last set, bringing them down on you as well. Hell they even GAVE you two KR's prior to that without response because your guys had actually talked to them.

When one of your guys spammed a swag of attacks on one of our guys, we would have been well within our rights to order a kill run, but we let it slide, because we recognise that mistakes happen.

Then we have this set. Again, acting like SoL and Mercs are the bad guys somehow, because they beat you to the punch you guys had already publicly announced you were going to throw with mass emails about how you're going to war, intending to hit early and hard.

Come on man, you know better than this.

You can't piss on us, while claiming to be our friends, then expect us to be happy about it and come running to support you in a self inflicted war.
So far, we have been far better friends to M4D, than M4D have been to Paradigm.

This is why I stock warfare and spies instead of bushels. Heck, a couple sets ago I didn't even switch off monarchy until it looked too late for any incoming danger. I play for war through and through, and always ready for it, but my friends prefer to hug trees so I'm happy to be their shield in ways netting doesn't always prepare you for.

Also this.

I like to try for a PB finish each set, but I am also the first person to go and get involved in KR's protecting my alliance mates from suiciders, or to take retals as required.

Nate plays like a true Elder. Always ready to war.

Any netting clan is lucky to have him as a bodyguard. :)

what's shaken

I saw what you said for Mercs, I agree with your statement and POV.

Mercenaries for Hire vouch for this post.

You literally lit the beacons a couple hours after I tagged up :P

do any of you know what outside looks like?

You all need a hobby.

I agree with Empy, you guys need some hobbies. You're taking things way too personally and have crafted a narrative that suites your perspective. I wasn't around for the war you were in as I was offline for a couple of months, but had I been around I would have jumped over and helped. Not sure what happened there. The only reason I left PDM with the other guys is because you guys lost the plot and control of PDM due to its previous loose canon leader and none of you in the senate could do anything to control it. People are too old for the drama.

I don't know who gassed you up and told you that PDM is the netting arm of M4D, but the reality is we're mostly from the same clan and lineage. If you were to get gangbanged we'd likely help you. Afaik people were bored of netting and wanted some action and have been. It's literally a war game after all and this server has a history of alliance wars. Obviously someone got into your head and made you feel insecure about where PDM stands, but that wasn't me and directing that towards me makes no sense. You should probably be talking to the leader of M4D and clearing up any miscommunication or confusion. Ergo, it's not that serious.

As for us killing that SoLer and having SoL run on us last set -- you may have completely missed the attack logs. There was a member of SoL with the country "Earth 2025" that was joining in on the Mercs run. So we killed him. We didn't randomly decide to start targeting that fluffclan, it just happened to be and with allies like PDM, we didn't expect anyone to do anything about it either.

"When one of your guys spammed a swag of attacks on one of our guys, we would have been well within our rights to order a kill run, but we let it slide, because we recognise that mistakes happen."

Yeah, I believe one of our guys mixed up the country numbers (dumb), and I'm sure you know this. Bringing this up in here is odd af, I'm wondering if its part of your narrative crafting. You seem like a nice guy but you're all conspiracy-theory bs right now and its weird. I didn't expect that out of you. No one in that war room randomly decided to spam an attack against PDM. No one was even thinking about you. Mistakes happen but you know this, so again, this crafting of narrative fluff is just outright weird.

"Then we have this set. Again, acting like SoL and Mercs are the bad guys somehow, because they beat you to the punch you guys had already publicly announced you were going to throw with mass emails about how you're going to war, intending to hit early and hard."

They are the bad guys. They will always be the bad guys. This is why you broads don't want any drama with them and you're glazing them on this forum in the hopes they don't disrupt your tree hugging. The reality is that you guys probably should retire or play collaboration or another server at this point. You're not built for any of this judging by this nonsense post.

With that being said, stop being pansies. And I no longer support TAN for mod, he's built like like "where's waldo" and his dance moves are incredible awful.

Says the guy who posted all over the place that he was leaving the game multiple times as he wanted sympathy and messages of “don’t leave Empy, the game will die without you”

Hey Hexor— OG PDMer here. Honestly, most PDMers just aren’t built for war. They’re not trying to run bots, hop on scheduled chats, or grind like that. After TAN and Detmer dipped in the mid-2000s, PDM kinda settled into a more chill, casual vibe, and it’s been better for it.

Not saying that’s good or bad, just different. The ones who were down to war mostly ended up in M4D anyway, so what you’re asking for already kinda happened.

If you’re trying to recruit, you’d probably have better luck hitting people up in private than putting it all out here. As for me, I’m not getting involved in anything against PDM unless they hit me first.

I’m already at like 1,000 miles of singletrack this year; what’s your hobby?

WeeZy said you shoud have all the free time you need while your restart waits to build for another death

I get that, and I respect that, which is why many of us branched off. I didn't even know there was any melodrama in the background, I've certainly not heard of it. Not until Drow brought it up here on the forums. I hope he clears up those misconceptions and confusion he has going on. I'm recruited _zero_ people out of PDM. In fact I was kind of joking with my post that Drow responded to, even threw in a little "lol" for obvious sakes.

As for my hobbies you can ask TAN, he knows me personally. But if you're interested in a quick answer:
- I run a successful podcast with a good friend of mine on the weekends
- I run CTF (capture the flag) events for cybersecurity students across the east coast and west indies. We had a great turn out recently down in Chicago.
- Sometimes I'm on TV doing interviews like CBS, Fox News. Sometimes I do speaking tours - some unpaid (hobby), others paid events (speaking).
- I've mentored and trained several hundred people and got them jobs in the cybersecurity industry as a side thing. Unpaid. Hobby. I've also generated hundreds of millions for companies in the cybersecurity industry. Some of it paid, others as a practitioner and researcher. Sometimes I advise startups for fluffs and giggles. Personally, I have to keep busy otherwise I drive into a wall.

Congrats on the 1000 miles.

Cool man happy for you. Hope you can add more grass touching and sun time.

🤘

Hex you asshole, you know I live in Chicago. Did your dumb ass fly all the way over here and you didn't say anything?

Regarding the drama, you're downplaying our deteriorating relations not because you're wrong, but because you just don't have access to all the information.

Sadly, Drow didn't really embellish all that much.

The 1000 miles on the bike is obviously a bigger flex and more impressive.

Go Req you beast!

I am the bad guy.

Imagine coming back from an extended hiatus to find the same old tired "game is dying" stuff still goes on like it did 20 years ago. Never change.

Nothing you say can phase me bro. Make up whatever narrative you want.

I'll be back soon for another CTF, I'll shoot you the invite details so you can come through. But you're right, I'm not privy to all the BS going on in the background but come on man we're all old. We're not in our teens anymore like we were back in the days. There's also not thousands of players or dozens of clans to larp over lol. Everybody chillax and enjoy some killing. fluff, PDM should FS us too and get involved. Stop being dorks!

Nah the killing we leave for our war/LaF wing. Happy hunting!

the only thing you're killing is your credit score :x

Yo son, and here I thought it was SuperDense making the dumb observations.

My credit score is like 790. My credit fluffs better credit than you.

There is no narrative to make up. You are an attention seeker and you have multiple threads and posts claiming you are quitting cuz you where sympathy chasing.

You are also always attention seeking and chasing sympathy on the ee discord bro. We have the receipts…

This new forum millionaire Hexor and mod wanna be Tan sound broke and poor comparing credit scores….
Gotta be cash rich like Coalie and compare how many Gucci flip flops, how many omega / Rolex watches you have or how many Lexus LC500 and LX500s you have

None of us will ever be as rich as TC, who has like.... $1.4m in assets. Between his stellar personality as a white supremacist and his high IQ (it's like...160 or something), we can only dream to achieve his wealth (both financial and mental).

I’m happy coalie is rich.

Thanks! House is full of children and life is good.