To summarize: you're someone who enjoys war who believes that the netgainers ruined the alliance server. If you asked the netgainers, they would claim that the warrers ruined the alliance server. You do understand this, right?

I guess I'll make the point more directly: suppose one of those old school players came back and ran an amazing TTR. He grabs your alliance with his country and he has so much defense that no one in your tag can retal him. Would you send him an ingame message congratulating them? Or would you kill his alliance? This is rhetorical btw.

Or to make it even more directly, here's a recently revived tag of old school players who seems to be strongly advocating for your preferred playstyle: https://www.earthempires.com/...intent-52609?t=1716241388 . How has that gone for them so far? This is also rhetorical btw.

I wouldn't change a single thing, we have been having fun. That's what games are for.

LoL

SirJouster isn't even playing anymore according to his public profile. You can try to project strength on AT if you want but it's not at all relevant to the discussion.

Back in the mid 2000s there were also problems with netting tags mid feeding and jumping, then kill anyone who could retal. PDM was practically destroyed because of it.

If the game has issues it’s due to the architecture of the game that was set by Mehul and emulated here. Bots helped some but players play the game.

You really saved yourself with those edits :)

I wasn't around when bots were added to the Alliance server. I'm very sympathetic to the idea that there are too many bots on the Alliance server. Why does every player need multiple landfarms? What does that have to do with the concept of playing on an clan-based server? But reducing the number of bots doesn't seem likely to lead to some new golden age for the Alliance server. Players themselves are the ones who chose to limit player-to-player interactions with pacting, certain types of retal policies, and insane overreactions to any hits received by their tag members.

The situation reminds me to discussions on FFA 15 years ago about how "self-farming" (landgrabbing your own countries) was ruining the game. Of course, the complainers wouldn't accept any hits on their own countries. Everybody should just play all-X I guess. Sounds super fun to me!

Don't try to summarize by Guessing my motives. I played the last set in the "old School" way. I began hitting "human" countries accepting 1:1 retals along the way. I was not playing to war. I wouldn't even care if Alliances farmed within themselves. In the past they may have been farmed more often than others. You needed to build an off and def country to survive. Folks that "were" killed got pissed when having to restart from zero. Many stayed and, some came back, when they were allowed to restart with a percentage of what they lost. As you stated, you were not even here when the bot concept arrived. Your attempt to sllence my opinion is yet one more personal attack. My post never mentioned you or any single person. Just a total game opinion. I happened to be among the first to play Earth 2025 and have seen way too many leave. More so, trying to find a reason to stay. I would bet everyting that I have played more sets than anyone since the days of Earth 2025. I might have missed two sets in all. I remember, I was in a hospital then.

Attempting to have a discussion with someone is not trying to silence them. Based on your previous posts, I thought you were someone who appreciated straight talk.

Honestly, if you think that farming bots is bad for the game, not the way the game is meant to be played, personally offensive, or bad for any other reason, great! Do something about it. Have your alliance leaders declare a new policy: any country that does more than 100 hits against NPCs will be killed. This is the alliance server, so enforce your will against other players using power or diplomacy.

Who knows, maybe it'll lead to interesting and unpredictable wars? Would that be so bad? Looking at your profile, you haven't been killed since mid-2023. Isn't that boring?

Yeah well, I didn't read your whole post (waste of time) and was posting while taking a break from putting in a 10+ mile day on the single track. I hope you touch some grass today too :)

Edit: good use of your admin privilege too LOL NERD

Edit 2: Have a Swirvy day!

Edit 3: I'm just waiting for you to delete your posts to change the entire flow of the conversation and tuck your tail, like you've done several times before :)

I didn't use any admin privileges to view your old post, I saw the original in real time. I was alerted that a valued premium-patron member posted on the boards so I rushed to read it right away.

I actually agree with slag here. I’d love for someone to do that kind of policy 😆

Straight talk?? your statement, not mine."To summarize: you're someone who enjoys war who believes that the netgainers ruined the alliance server."

Sorry, I learned to build a country that is hard to kill

I left you a DM. But, we don't just "come to the boards and gripe" as you put it.

Gonna be honest: Did enjoy taking the retals. Obviously, we reached out to your heads first, but, there is a certain enjoyment to that moment when you hit the send button and worry that you missed your numbers ever so slightly, and are going to bounce the retal lol
Didn't help that I'd had to burn 20 odd million jets breaking a suicider down the day before mind you :P

I've retired and come back to the game multiple times. For different reasons each time.
Bots weren't even a thing until my most recent or so comeback. If anything, I'd argue the game's decay has slowed since then.

That said, it is clear that the game cannot continue on the trajectory it is at the moment.
I agree with you on the forums issue, and tbh, I stay out of EECord for more or less the same reason, even though I know there's a whole bunch of old timers I'd love to chat with still.

It's no longer really alliance smack talk that goes on here.

Let me put this challenge to you all"
How many of you have kids, and how many would let, or encourage, your kids to play?
I actually have, though in my kid's case, he isn't currently active, because his computer is dead, he lives 300km away from me, and he finds it painful to play on his phone.

If you wouldn't let your kids play, why not?

We as the community are both Earth's greatest strength, and tbh, it's greatest weakness.

The game itself has always been so so, and once Utopia came along, Mehul never gave a fluff about the earth guys particularly.

On warring v netting: even 20 min a day at home netting (making grabs etc) is still significantly less time and investment than warring, where it's not just attending warchats, but also being able to get online at a moment's notice (literally) 24/7 to stop your country being killed.
And that's before we get to the guys running the chats, picking targets, getting spy ops etc to make sure things are ready to go for that time when you're doing a KR.
a lot of that is admittedly FAR easier than it was in the day, due to the reduced player base, but still. It's also harder to coordinate fewer people spread across a fluff load of timezones, than having enough player base in a single timezone to run chats regularly. It can still be done, but requires effort.


Lastly, Paradigm last warred not that long back :P
Was just after we removed Doug from leadership over the sheer buildup of stuff that had gone on since the BlackHole affair.

The big warring tags are the ones that set policy on the server. Instead of complaining on the boards, you could try solving the problem that you created?

Lawlz I think this is Slagpits funniest post of 2025 as I legit had a chuckle while having dinner lol

How in the hell do you call my post "complaining"? Ever think that YOU may be the problem? You created the current game play. Hope my opinion didn't hurt your feelings.

The players determine how interactions on the Alliance server go, not the admins. Have fun next round with your 2:1 numbers advantage FS against M4D, the players who you claim play in the game in your preferred fashion.

Spoilers for round 94: your side wins.

it is what it is sometimes games never change but i still think 60 vs 18 is a bit ridiculous.

Yeah, I came back after a long retirement and its been a 2v1 gangbang each set. Either solers join mercs to attack us, or mercs join Sol to attack us. Last set we had a suicider who was being FA'd by both Sol/Mercs over and over until Mercs finally warred us. With solers attacking us. When we hit the Soler, now it was 2v1. Not sure how long this is sustainable, but folks have been trying to recruit retired players back. Our first official set we got smashed, and most of the old players were trying to re-learn strategy, how to run turns, etc. They came back. And they're leaving again. I've said it before and I'll reiterate: it seems Sol/Mercs at this point are driving anyone out of this game until its them playing with themselves. I'm not sure whats the fun in that but good job, you've won and killed the game.

Suiciders die, I didn't die. Also I was acting on my own free will and joesy was ready for some fuffin.

Every post you've made in this thread is freaking hilarious, mr. "I don't accept retals from other members of the clan I grabbed but I make them for my clan members."

I have re-read the game developers post and come to the conclusion that his proposal sounds exciting.

next set if any of you want to netgain please go to coop server, farm your little bots in peace and leave allaince server for good like the weak LaF players who would ROR and kill untaggeds for making legit retals. Go and join the players who effectively killed off alliance. The 40 of us “policy makers” will be here celebrating another victory as the oracle Slagpit has declared :)

Question if it’s only Mercs and SOL left will you be shutting down the server effectively killing the legacy or earth 2025?

Can I request, as a premium-patron-user, that you tag and play in m4d next set! You can bring your friends with you.

I'll throw in a bogus pretext for free:

"Our netting members have recently remarked that they find it difficult to get land due to overfarming of NPC countries. As leader of {{STRONG WAR ALLIANCE X}}, I am announcing that countries in other tags may only do a maximum of one hundred (100) attacks on NPC countries during the full round. We are enacting this policy to make it easier for our netgainers to gain land. Any country breaking this policy will be killed."

Don’t be scared. Show what you posted and stop deleting your posts Doug. You have done it 3 times this Sunday.

Doug is shooting blanks, that's good, you won't get pregnant SF!


Haha




/Me runs

Koh bro, I am a giver not a receiver so all good!

Suicidal was correct.

It was as much about growing/building an alliance, the politics, building a community as it was the game itself.

The game itself was simply a vehicle. It's not what made things great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8kwJ-kcVtk

+bonus

How does that guy have a voice lol

I am seeking updates on the celphi hacking incident.

This is the most exciting news since Tan got banned for begging to be a mod again!

Burn it down.

This game is no longer playable.

Especially with the solomites and the muppets running multis every set.

No future.

As far as multis go they don't seem to be a problem with EE. Unlike Earth: 2025 there are active mods that work to prevent that. It may happen but it isn't a prevalent issue.

If I am not mistaken some players on your side were the last big ring of multis uncovered in the game– mostly on the team server? I could be wrong if the players are not playing anymore I know BHole is permanently banned so that is one of them.

No future.

Close the doors tonight.

No one forces you to come back here, yet here you are.

Yeah, Rokles…. Move on. No one asked for commentary.

Unless you're Ratski then it is ok because even with two countries he can't do fluff, not even war ....

Now now, there's no need to be like that, you posted on a public board for all to view and comment on, if you don't like who comments then that's your problem I guess? Maybe you should be the one moving along?

Unplayable.

eats popcorn while enjoying the posts. most are really funny