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May 27th 2025, 19:23:52

Originally posted by VicRattlehead:
What's up with the purples?

There's two of them, I assum collusion of some kind, or multies?



Rock the Casbah (#49)
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May 27th 2025, 20:58:57

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
Originally posted by VicRattlehead:
What's up with the purples?

There's two of them, I assum collusion of some kind, or multies?



Rock the Casbah (#49)
(Democracy)
Rank: 46
Networth: 35,846
Land: 409
GDI Member
Dead
Deleted


Fleabag (#51)
(Democracy)
Rank: 41
Networth: 295,330
Land: 3176
GDI Member
Dead
Deleted


OOF

galleri was here.....that is all. :P


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Greaps Game profile

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May 28th 2025, 14:27:50

Hey im new, I tried to buy the EE premium credits and the web site doesn't work, is that not functional for others?

Cathankins Game profile

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May 28th 2025, 16:09:03

Originally posted by Greaps:
Seems like the easiest strategy to win then would be cashier or techer, where you sit around exploring, having lots of CS, run low defense, take hits, then late set, slowly make your retals, growing as much as you want per day. Do other servers have a different way to win the primary set of explorer, to-retals sounds boring to me.


What you are describing is called a tech start. You have the general idea. We tech until levels are appropriate and then convert from techer and play as our main strategy.

To answer your other question, 10-20 percent of your buildings as indies should cover your spies. You can run higher spy count for wars. Spies are very strong in wars.


Here’s an example of a tech start

https://www.earthempires.com/...egy-room/tech-start-51485





Cathankins Game profile

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May 28th 2025, 16:18:19

Originally posted by Greaps:
Im new why is everyone net worth so low? Are they holding cash or not buying units, are the cashiers, and farmers massing tech to leap ahead later? When does that happen?

Also assuming no messing around, what sort of total spy counts do people shoot for? I know it's about spies per land.


Meant to quote this post in my response btw. Sorry I was responding to two separate posts that you made. Hopefully that helps a little bit.

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May 28th 2025, 16:33:35

Originally posted by Greaps:
Hey im new, I tried to buy the EE premium credits and the web site doesn't work, is that not functional for others?


The credits system is currently down

https://www.earthempires.com/...orking-53541?t=1747360045

Greaps Game profile

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May 28th 2025, 18:55:12

You attack a country more than once and you break GDI, does it have to be successful attacks? is there a cool down where the 1 attack drops off or does it hold for entire set?

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May 28th 2025, 19:19:37

Full set, successful or not.

Greaps Game profile

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May 28th 2025, 19:28:30

Ok, so at some point the top will be forced to break GDI in order to keep growing, and I guess that means being forced into less efficient militaries with tanks, troops, and SDI defense?

Does weapons tech affect the special attacks like guerrilla strike?

VicRattlehead Game profile

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May 28th 2025, 20:39:07

Yes, weapons tech affects all attacks and defends.

And correct, the top land players will be forced to break GDI. Careful players will weigh their target selection heavily, trying to only choose targets that look like they won't be able to catch up and hit back, and then later on they will multi-tap targets that they can "jump out" of range of. Out of Humanitarians range means you can't attack a country at all due to size difference.

This is why it's a bad idea to grab willy nilly out of the gate on this server, and instead batch explore for your early growth, as opposed to servers with bots where it's all upside to grabbing instead of batch exploring.

Greaps Game profile

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May 28th 2025, 21:24:00

So once you jump out of range on humanitarians they cannot hit back unless they net gain back enough, a long time ago there was a "declare war" button and would allow out of range actions, is that gone?

Greaps Game profile

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May 28th 2025, 21:25:39

Also for future reference, how far up do different strats try and bath explore before attacking?

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May 28th 2025, 22:04:11

Originally posted by Greaps:
Also for future reference, how far up do different strats try and bath explore before attacking?


It's going to depend on the player more than anything, but republics the highest. It's also dependent on landgoal. If you just want to get to 15k and tech out, you only want to do the first batch. If you're trying to be a fatass casher, the second batch from 3800 acres is probably a good idea.

I'm planning to run all-X this round personally, we'll see if I can avoid having to retal.

Originally posted by Greaps:
So once you jump out of range on humanitarians they cannot hit back unless they net gain back enough, a long time ago there was a "declare war" button and would allow out of range actions, is that gone?


Declare war is still there, I don't think it bypasses humanitarians range but it does give you an attack bonus IIRC. It's mostly a thing for other servers at this point as far as I can tell, as GDI works differently on alliance server and team server.

Hessman123 Game profile

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May 28th 2025, 22:32:56

There is no declare war option in Primary

Humanitarian range is 4x networth, so you will soon see 4 million networth countries that multi tap 1mil networth countries and then hope that they can stay 4x larger than their target country

What ends up happening is players who are building ineffective countries lacking strategy will become farmland for the top players on the server

Greaps Game profile

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May 28th 2025, 23:56:07

Originally posted by Hessman123:
There is no declare war option in Primary

Humanitarian range is 4x networth, so you will soon see 4 million networth countries that multi tap 1mil networth countries and then hope that they can stay 4x larger than their target country

What ends up happening is players who are building ineffective countries lacking strategy will become farmland for the top players on the server


Thank you that's helpful should probably start to be the move very soon.

With SS's or PS whats is a multi-hit protection still a thing? How many hits until gains are significantly reduced?

KoHeartsGPA Game profile

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May 29th 2025, 17:24:55

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
Originally posted by VicRattlehead:
What's up with the purples?

There's two of them, I assum collusion of some kind, or multies?



Rock the Casbah (#49)
(Democracy)
Rank: 46
Networth: 35,846
Land: 409
GDI Member
Dead
Deleted


Fleabag (#51)
(Democracy)
Rank: 41
Networth: 295,330
Land: 3176
GDI Member
Dead
Deleted


OOF


Another one

The Third Plateau (#39)
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Networth: 5617
Land: 120
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Cathankins Game profile

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Jun 5th 2025, 14:26:47

Hits are reduced after 2-3 hits typically. By the 4th and 5th hits the gains aren’t really that good.

Greaps Game profile

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Jun 5th 2025, 17:17:28

Originally posted by Cathankins:
Hits are reduced after 2-3 hits typically. By the 4th and 5th hits the gains aren’t really that good.



Perfect thank you for the input.

LightBringer Game profile

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Jun 5th 2025, 22:57:43

Originally posted by VicRattlehead:
Originally posted by Greaps:
Also for future reference, how far up do different strats try and bath explore before attacking?


It's going to depend on the player more than anything, but republics the highest. It's also dependent on landgoal. If you just want to get to 15k and tech out, you only want to do the first batch. If you're trying to be a fatass casher, the second batch from 3800 acres is probably a good idea.

I'm planning to run all-X this round personally, we'll see if I can avoid having to retal.

Originally posted by Greaps:
So once you jump out of range on humanitarians they cannot hit back unless they net gain back enough, a long time ago there was a "declare war" button and would allow out of range actions, is that gone?


Declare war is still there, I don't think it bypasses humanitarians range but it does give you an attack bonus IIRC. It's mostly a thing for other servers at this point as far as I can tell, as GDI works differently on alliance server and team server.


Re: I’m keen to see how you do going all-x. The number have really dropped this set, so I’m also going to try and do as much exploring as possible (normally I only do one batch explore all set at 1920a) since they few targets that are there are perpetually in DR. Also going to try and follow Delphis rule and only make 1 grab her country…. Although I don’t know if I’ll pull that off lol.
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Greaps Game profile

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Jun 6th 2025, 2:16:47

if you do a batch explore at 1920a, where would you end up, ive never done batch exploring before.

VicRattlehead Game profile

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Jun 6th 2025, 3:13:13

Originally posted by Greaps:
if you do a batch explore at 1920a, where would you end up, ive never done batch exploring before.


Remember that you are limited to 50% empty acres, so about double what you start with on the first batch, or 3800ish

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Jun 6th 2025, 3:14:00

Originally posted by LightBringer:
Originally posted by VicRattlehead:
Originally posted by Greaps:
Also for future reference, how far up do different strats try and bath explore before attacking?


It's going to depend on the player more than anything, but republics the highest. It's also dependent on landgoal. If you just want to get to 15k and tech out, you only want to do the first batch. If you're trying to be a fatass casher, the second batch from 3800 acres is probably a good idea.

I'm planning to run all-X this round personally, we'll see if I can avoid having to retal.

Originally posted by Greaps:
So once you jump out of range on humanitarians they cannot hit back unless they net gain back enough, a long time ago there was a "declare war" button and would allow out of range actions, is that gone?


Declare war is still there, I don't think it bypasses humanitarians range but it does give you an attack bonus IIRC. It's mostly a thing for other servers at this point as far as I can tell, as GDI works differently on alliance server and team server.


Re: I’m keen to see how you do going all-x. The number have really dropped this set, so I’m also going to try and do as much exploring as possible (normally I only do one batch explore all set at 1920a) since they few targets that are there are perpetually in DR. Also going to try and follow Delphis rule and only make 1 grab her country…. Although I don’t know if I’ll pull that off lol.


Got grabbed yesterday, retalled it today.

I think I'd have been better off techstarting.

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Jun 6th 2025, 4:00:13

I don't believe Declare War is available on servers with "express style" GDI.

KoHeartsGPA Game profile

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Jun 6th 2025, 5:38:35

Originally posted by Slagpit:
I don't believe Declare War is available on servers with "express style" GDI.


Correct
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LightBringer Game profile

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Jun 6th 2025, 7:02:47

Originally posted by Greaps:
if you do a batch explore at 1920a, where would you end up, ive never done batch exploring before.


Assuming you're fully built, it will cap at 1920a, the number of turns that will take depends on government. You can't explore any more if you have more land unbuilt then built.
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Greaps Game profile

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Jun 7th 2025, 1:21:03

What do players spend their bonus on, ive been getting expenses lower lately and did bonus productions a few times earlier which ones and what Strats, I can't imagine how people get those insanely high end of game networths, do you have to go private market bonus only?

VicRattlehead Game profile

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Jun 7th 2025, 2:12:11

Depends on your strat really. Expenses is good for c/i, turns for a techer, etc.

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Jun 7th 2025, 4:00:50

Expenses was a game changer for me ...primarily rep/casher

Once its up to mid 40's near the end PCI booms

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Jun 7th 2025, 21:52:55

Missile count!

31


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Jun 11th 2025, 12:27:56

Why was stilllearning (#8) deleted? =(
I think he was a really new player...
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Jun 11th 2025, 21:29:19

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VicRattlehead Game profile

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Jun 12th 2025, 0:09:00

Man, cash starting on this server is a terrible plan. Remind me to not do that again. Techstart for all future cashing endeavors.

SuperFly Game profile

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Jun 12th 2025, 0:50:29

Any slow start is bad. You get farmed into oblivion.

You need to use same country name. Get notoriety for retaling and they leave you alone

Hessman123 Game profile

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Jun 12th 2025, 0:53:51

Some of us have too many fans to use a recurring name

Although I’ve often advocated for your forum name to show up in the country search ingame

SuperFly Game profile

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Jun 12th 2025, 6:06:00

Originally posted by Hessman123:
Some of us have too many fans to use a recurring name

Although I’ve often advocated for your forum name to show up in the country search ingame


really you got haters? I thought i was the most hated guy around for all my antics lol

VicRattlehead Game profile

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Jun 12th 2025, 12:55:55

Originally posted by SuperFly:
Any slow start is bad. You get farmed into oblivion.

You need to use same country name. Get notoriety for retaling and they leave you alone
It's not just that, it's that the techstarters are also ahead of me in land as well as tech, even the all-X ones. I have been hit a few times, I owe some retals, have taken 1.

Cathankins Game profile

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Jun 12th 2025, 14:39:55

Tech starts are better until everyone runs a tech start and tech is $2,000. Then the cash start will flex its strength.

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Jun 13th 2025, 4:44:07

FARMER (#40)

Hit all the wrong people 😂
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Jun 13th 2025, 4:51:48

CM/NM/EM 20/13/10

People that already grabbed me are failing ops on me, can't wait to use these! Come on now, break GDI already haha
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Jun 13th 2025, 10:40:13

Not many folks are looking to do what you are thinking. Coming from where you are thinking ( but lets make it from a true warrior perspective) You are going to be the one breaking GDI. It is interesting you are making that country and literally expecting people to want to break GDI?
less defined as days go by. Fading away well you might say I am losing the focus. Kinda drifting into the abstract in terms of how I see myself

Greaps Game profile

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Jun 13th 2025, 11:17:37

It's FARMERS first round in 10+ years. Go easy on him. ; )

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Jun 14th 2025, 17:39:50

2 questions:

Who the heck is suppressing the turret market, please stop selling 4m jets for $99

How is it possible that a country can attack me and then jump out of my spy ops range? I built high spal to retal with ops and it says I can't. That's dumb.

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Jun 14th 2025, 17:46:50

Originally posted by DaddyFresh:
2 questions:

Who the heck is suppressing the turret market, please stop selling 4m jets for $99

How is it possible that a country can attack me and then jump out of my spy ops range? I built high spal to retal with ops and it says I can't. That's dumb.



A) supply and demand drives the markets.

B) read the GDI rules, whoever hit you had enough money or production to jump out of your range after taking your land.
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Greaps Game profile

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Jun 15th 2025, 13:43:36

Originally posted by DaddyFresh:
2 questions:

Who the heck is suppressing the turret market, please stop selling 4m jets for $99

How is it possible that a country can attack me and then jump out of my spy ops range? I built high spal to retal with ops and it says I can't. That's dumb.



This was killing me too, I noticed also time of day affecting prices a lot by 20% or more.

LightBringer Game profile

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Jun 16th 2025, 1:13:16

Originally posted by Greaps:
Originally posted by DaddyFresh:
2 questions:

Who the heck is suppressing the turret market, please stop selling 4m jets for $99

How is it possible that a country can attack me and then jump out of my spy ops range? I built high spal to retal with ops and it says I can't. That's dumb.



This was killing me too, I noticed also time of day affecting prices a lot by 20% or more.



Yeah this really frustrates me now too. Stuff used to move on the market regardless of time of day, now with so few players dirt cheap mill can sit on the market for half a day and then suddenly the market is empty. Because it’s only 2-3 players buying significant amount of military on the whole server.
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Cathankins Game profile

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Jun 16th 2025, 1:30:03

I think the wild market swings on non bot servers like team are the most exciting part of the game. It’s cool seeing farmer be super strong on sets like this and it makes every strategy at least have a chance at a great set. If the market is that crazy then demo techer reseller is a lot of fun.