Self Farming in FFA - Earth Empires Forum

Tin Man

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Feb 11th 2011, 13:08:54

I like self-farm and die sounds like a very enforceable policy with the current state of FFA.. would be nice to rid the server of it before the FB app is launched.. only thing is this would end with TKO dieing and I like TKO lol

I think next set the major warring clans could pull this off.. give out a good warning before the set starts and the only clans that would be given a warning would be one man tags that dont visit the boards

Desperado

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Feb 11th 2011, 13:41:05

you know.. the funny thing about this self farming stuff...

didn't like.. 90% of FFA clans back in earth 2025 have their own farms? they just ran them untagged?

Originally posted by Primeval:

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Tin Man

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Feb 11th 2011, 13:53:20

atleast then they had the possibility of the untaggeds to be grabbed by other clans and not just their own

Crippler ICD

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Feb 11th 2011, 15:45:06

Originally posted by Tin Man:

atleast then they had the possibility of the untaggeds to be grabbed by other clans and not just their own

.... just because it's tagged doesnt mean you cant grab it, hell,that's all you (nbk) does :P

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Pain

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Feb 11th 2011, 19:51:51

did anyone ever notice the ones who cry about self farming and say it gives people an unfair advantage are the ones who never net anyways?

kinda ironic huh?

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Juusto

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Feb 11th 2011, 20:36:55

"I know my clan with 200+ Country will just pick a netting tag every set and war them. Just so they cannot self farm."

you are my hero dedlysmurf... and when you talk about tags who self farm, why dont you just say PANLV cos you aint warring anyone else(just admin it) :/

this set we didnt self farm in the first 1,5-2 weeks(maybe we could have done that later), kept our land low to avoid hits and what happens??? we get FS´d cos ppl think we are going to war you or someone else (go to see doctor if you are that paranoid)... Dont give me any BS about GD or last set things.

got one question:

since you are against GD, is it better if we just create one tag with 1k countries?

and what Pain said.

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pocketchange

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Feb 11th 2011, 20:44:44

If an alliance wants to self farm, let them. How is it hurting you?

KyleCleric

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Feb 11th 2011, 21:01:36

i don't have a problem with self farming. i just don't like it when DR is used as a defense. it makes me want to launch missiles.

This is our fluffing city. And no one is going to dictate our freedom. Stay strong.

LeftyHa8er

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Feb 11th 2011, 21:06:23

the issue is with the drs as denfense and being low mill.

gambit

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Feb 11th 2011, 21:11:31

if you own 15 countries you are using as farms... would you be mad if i came along and farmed them too?

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LeftyHa8er

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Feb 11th 2011, 21:18:09

u can hit my farms if i can hit your farms

gambit

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Feb 11th 2011, 21:38:03

deal :)

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LeftyHa8er

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Feb 11th 2011, 21:39:59

little does gambit know i have 0 farms *evil grin*

KyleCleric

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Feb 11th 2011, 21:51:09

Gambit also has 0 farms

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LeftyHa8er

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Feb 11th 2011, 21:56:21

i know

gambit

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Feb 11th 2011, 22:08:08

pistols at dawn?

Natural Born Killer

kemo

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Feb 11th 2011, 22:10:14

pillows at bedtime

all praised to ra

gambit

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Feb 11th 2011, 22:22:18

i may love you kemo

come back to nbk :P

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DeDLySMuRF

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Feb 12th 2011, 2:48:26

Juusto -

Like I said in that thread. I am not suggesting eliminating self farming.

I am just tired of seeing countrys with 10x's my land with no military. And I can't even hit them. Because they are in DR because they hit themself with 6+ GS's sending 1 troop.

The current system is retarded. If Self Farming wasn't so easy and such a lazy way to net, I for one, wouldn't be so upset with people doing it.

Change the DR system. Make it not so easy, and maybe some of us may ease up a little on the self farmers.

And if your going to quote me. Quote the whole thing.

Originally posted by DeDLySMuRF:

You guys have options here. But if it continues like this, I know my clan with 200+ Country will just pick a netting tag every set and war them. Just so they cannot self farm. I really don't want to do that, because some of these netters will just pack up there bags and leave the game. But we will do everything we possibly can to prevent this lazy method of netgaining. I just hope that you, the game mods, can see our side of view on this.

I won't even get into anything regarding personal oppinions on coalitions. This has nothing to do with that.

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bladenightbreeze

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Feb 12th 2011, 3:03:15

what bout those of us who decide to self farm but dont resort to putting our farms into DR with GS's and have military to defend its land?

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Rockman

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Feb 12th 2011, 3:07:00

Originally posted by DeDLySMuRF:

I won't even get into anything regarding personal oppinions on coalitions. This has nothing to do with that.

I'm tired of seeing countries with less land than my all-explore countries. Of the 204 countries in your tag, 6 of them have more land than my largest all-explore country, a country which has done 64 guerilla strikes. If I spent those 128 turns exploring & building instead of doing guerilla strikes, that country would be larger than all but 1 of your 204 countries.

Its not like exploring is hard. And none of my countries are republics, so they don't have that explore gains bonus either.

Rockman

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Feb 12th 2011, 4:34:10

Ah, and I suppose the grab on me just now is retaliation for my criticizing Swords' netting abilities?

Pain

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Feb 12th 2011, 4:36:40

lol.

i highly doubt swords knows how to net. why else do you think they are butt hurt about people who self farm.

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Kill4Free

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Feb 12th 2011, 5:48:24

NBK's backup netting strategy is to kill everyone who is higher in NW then us. As a strategy as a whole, it is pretty poor, but it would be pretty effective while it briefly lasted.

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DeDLySMuRF

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Feb 12th 2011, 12:05:27

I guess theres nothing left to say on the Subject of Self Farming...

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NightShade

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Feb 12th 2011, 12:12:14

Check this out Rockman, I am an All Explore Republic Casher enthusiast. Nevermind that prior to this year, I had never any chance to follow a good strat to hit a NW above $5 million because of some people's perceptions towards me somehow equated to my countries becoming targets for close to ten years.

However, considering that regarding SworDs' intention's this set, it would be stupid of me to go exploring and trying to attain something to the tune of 15k acres just to most likely wind up painting bullseyes on my countries.

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Originally posted by Bsnake:

I was sitting there wondering how many I could kill with one set of chopsticks

Warster

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Feb 12th 2011, 13:21:35

as usual Smurf instead of talking to the alliances that do it, you come here and post

i've said if you want to discuss it , message me , i'm yet to receive a message

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Desperado

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Feb 12th 2011, 13:23:42

well... it kinda is what the purpose of this board is for... lol

Originally posted by Primeval:

pants antler

Warster

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Feb 12th 2011, 13:26:35

well when you have a problem with what an alliance is doing, makes sense to actually talk to them about it

IMP spoke to us about it, NBK spoke to us about it

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Desperado

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Feb 12th 2011, 13:35:38

dedly has a phobia about one on one meetings though

Originally posted by Primeval:

pants antler

NightShade

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Feb 12th 2011, 14:45:14

LOL, I remember some other people who've had phobia's on one on one meetings too... callipygian and Potomac being among two that I distinctly remember.

Back when I lived in Berkeley, I told callipygian where I hung out, and where to find me, and he never tried.

I even tried visiting Randall once when I was out in Washington D.C. some time ago. I know he lives in Alexandra, VA... but for him to refuse a meeting with me was kind of disappointing.

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Originally posted by Bsnake:

I was sitting there wondering how many I could kill with one set of chopsticks

Slagpit

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Feb 12th 2011, 15:53:23

I'll agree with Rockman. I don't like it when warrers run deliberately low land countries and use their low land as a defense. It makes it impossible for netters to interact with them and it's lazier than self farming.

I demand that all warring countries get at least 15k acres before their alliance can FS.

Maybe I should code that into the game?

ZDH

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Feb 12th 2011, 15:56:16

Not reading what everyone else put but I think self farming is lame. JMO

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NightShade

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Feb 12th 2011, 17:00:45

LMAO... great. It's a good thing that after this set or the next I'll be going back to tree-hugging.

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Originally posted by Bsnake:

I was sitting there wondering how many I could kill with one set of chopsticks

Juusto

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Feb 12th 2011, 17:37:28

Originally posted by Slagpit:

YES, do that!!!

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synoder

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Feb 12th 2011, 19:51:09

That would be kinda fun, then we would have farming wars.

Kill4Free

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Feb 12th 2011, 19:54:40

Originally posted by Juusto:

Originally posted by Slagpit:

YES, do that!!!

If NBK is grabbing we aren't intending to war, and our countries will not be low land either.
If we are building to war, we will be grabbing a fraction of the amount of normal, and will have less land.

I don't see what the issue is in this case.

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Rockman

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Feb 12th 2011, 20:09:51

Originally posted by Kill4Free:

Originally posted by Juusto:

Originally posted by Slagpit:

YES, do that!!!

The issue is if you intentionally keep less land, and grab larger all-explore countries. I don't have a problem with people keeping less land, my problem is when they keep less land than an all-explore and don't want to allow land:land retals.

Kill4Free

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Feb 12th 2011, 20:20:15

That issue doesnt really exist so much Rock. Last set when NBK was netting, NBK had probably the top 30 non self farmed countries in the game, and quite a few all explores that were big too.
We are low land for a little bit in the tech phase for a war, and that is probably where people are getting it from, however we don't grab much so it isnt really an issue.

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Rockman

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Feb 12th 2011, 20:22:30

Originally posted by Kill4Free:

Yep, and I give you guys props for that.

Slagpit

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Feb 13th 2011, 0:10:20

Not all warring tags act in the same way and I didn't mean to paint them all with the same brush. Obviously such a mechanic won't be implemented because there is no FS mechanic.

DeDLySMuRF

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Feb 13th 2011, 1:34:48

Slagpit/Warster,

What is the point discussing Self Farming with any of you? Your too boneheaded to listen to anyone and have your own oppinions set in stone.

Swords will just start killing any country that self farms. We may just have to add that to our policy next set.

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Warster

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Feb 13th 2011, 2:18:15

funny that you have never spoken to me Smurf, so how would you know what i would say

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Kill4Free

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Feb 13th 2011, 2:22:02

Killing any country that self farms would make things interesting :P

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Pain

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Feb 13th 2011, 2:22:49

Originally posted by DeDLySMuRF:

are you fluffin serious? dude think about what you just said. why do you feel that YOUR opinion is right and thier is not. you are not the divine one who decides what is and isnt acceptable. if you want to get technical slagpit OWNS this game and can do and say what he wants. including deleting you.

you go ahead and kill any country that self farms, see what happens to you.

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DeDLySMuRF

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Feb 13th 2011, 2:24:05

Warster, I don't need to talk to you personally.

I have seen other TKO leaders state that they would continue Self Farming if others did.

If other clans stopped, TKO would stop.

Theres nothing left to discuss. Now its just time to enforce the policy differently since some clans are unwilling to give up there lazy netting ways.

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Kill4Free

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Feb 13th 2011, 2:27:09

So in other words you are declaring war on netters :P

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Slagpit

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Feb 13th 2011, 2:28:07

Rational discussion is the only thing that will change game mechanics. Insults and threats won't get you anywhere.

If you want to try to run players out of the game that's your prerogative as a clan leader, but I hope that the rest of the server has enough sense to run you off the server instead.