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cRaZyDaVe Game profile

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Feb 26th 2011, 16:11:21

so this country in tourney that i dont even know messages me asking for help killing another country 2.5 days ago

i reported it just to see what would happen and guess what...

it has not been deleted

so much for spirit of the rules
Originally posted by Twain:
I love the idea of sending even 100 troops into an area so they can go assassinate citizens one at a time.

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Feb 26th 2011, 16:13:33

If you actually want to attempt to be useful, why don't you go on IRC and PM an admin instead of being a stupid troll
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mrford Game profile

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Feb 26th 2011, 16:16:01

You are pretty tarded arnt you?

Have you even read the spirit of the rules post on the solo server forums? Are you just trying to look like an idiot in an attempt to start some dramar?

Why don't you ask Ivan how you get deleted, roll through the appeal process properly, and get reinstated.
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cRaZyDaVe Game profile

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Feb 26th 2011, 16:16:43

maybe cuz i dont want to get the person deleted?

like i said, i just wanted to see how full of fluff the "spirit of the rules" are

and this proved it
Originally posted by Twain:
I love the idea of sending even 100 troops into an area so they can go assassinate citizens one at a time.

cRaZyDaVe Game profile

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Feb 26th 2011, 16:17:48

lol ford

Titanium got deleted for threatening to have his allies help...

this guy asks me for help

whats the diference
Originally posted by Twain:
I love the idea of sending even 100 troops into an area so they can go assassinate citizens one at a time.

mrford Game profile

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Feb 26th 2011, 16:19:06

Like I said, stfu and go read the spirit statment. Otherwise you are just worthlessly trying to troll the admins.
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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

Ozzite Game profile

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Feb 26th 2011, 16:20:15

Originally posted by mrford:
Otherwise you are just worthlessly trying to troll the admins.


I don't think he is even trying to hide that
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cRaZyDaVe Game profile

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Feb 26th 2011, 16:20:45

i've read it

so you stfu

and im not trying to troll the admins


im trying to show people that slag is full of fluff

:D
Originally posted by Twain:
I love the idea of sending even 100 troops into an area so they can go assassinate citizens one at a time.

mrford Game profile

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Feb 26th 2011, 16:23:34

Actually, your boy Tits is full of fluff. You mght want to ask him what he did to get deleted, it wasn't threatening to call allies in at all. I'm sorry, I thought you actually knew why he was deleted. Untill he tells youths truth, everything you say is comming out of your ass. It's not a good look for you. Trust me.
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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

cRaZyDaVe Game profile

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Feb 26th 2011, 16:30:47

thats exactly why he was deleted, for in-game messages and threatening the guy will allies

we're talking the original deletion....not the getting banned
Originally posted by Twain:
I love the idea of sending even 100 troops into an area so they can go assassinate citizens one at a time.

mrford Game profile

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Feb 26th 2011, 16:41:27

so am I, and that's not why
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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

cRaZyDaVe Game profile

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Feb 26th 2011, 16:51:56

Slag said himself that the 'spirit of the rules' was the reason
Originally posted by Twain:
I love the idea of sending even 100 troops into an area so they can go assassinate citizens one at a time.

mrford Game profile

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Feb 26th 2011, 16:54:46

and that is not the only clause in the spirit of the rules

read it again, and talk to your boy before you make any further assumptions
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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

Rico Game profile

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Feb 26th 2011, 17:06:55

I wish someone on the admin staff would give us a straight answer as to why he was deleted in the first place. Telling us to go read the rules doesn't cut it. I've read the rules and I'm still not seeing a violation on his part.

mrford Game profile

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Feb 26th 2011, 17:10:44

you killed an admins country because you didn't like their actions.

imo the admins owe you jack fluff and you should just continue to cry about it. but that's just me

and the admins do not have to justify to the entire game why someone's primary country was deleted. that is not their place, it is not your business. if Tits decides to lie to you about the reasons, then that is his choice.
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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

Rico Game profile

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Feb 26th 2011, 17:14:33

Originally posted by mrford:
if Tits decides to lie to you about the reasons, then that is his choice.

You accuse us of only getting one side of the story. This is me asking for the admins side of the story. But all we have been getting this entire time are very vague answers.

mrford Game profile

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Feb 26th 2011, 17:20:32

because it isn't their place to discuss other players countries with you.

if they start now, where does it end. do you want them to broadcast every time someone is deleted, and exactly why? where should discretion be used?

if his FFA string was deleted, im sure you would be told, as it directly affects you, however it wasn't, so you probably wont be told. It was a 100% just reason however, and he isn't the first to be deleted for said offense, and probably wont be the last.

you were informed why he was banned, which is the only thing that directly affected you, and you chose to do the same thing that tits did to get him banned, throw a little girl like temper tantrum. Impressive display of character and a real strong move in your efforts to get further information out of the admins that they have no obligation to provide you with
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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

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Feb 26th 2011, 17:23:49

Slag isn't the only admin. Do you honestly think they all just had a hard on for Titanium?? Why don't you actually try and talk to another admin via PM or on IRC. Instead of making stupid threads that will just get ignored.

Why would they even want to explain it to you?

You killed an admins country in FFA over something that had nothing to do with FFA or your alliance. That is just freaking childish. And then you expect to get treated like adults when you demand information.

Rico Game profile

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Feb 26th 2011, 18:36:16

Politics got Slag killed. Yes, his actions against an IMP member played a huge part of it, but that wasn't the only reason. Truth is I was not a big fan before then. As everyone knows IMP has an anti self-farming stance. Seeing his 500k acre country at the top of my screen just freaking ate at me.

But ultimately the real reason we went after Slag was because of his "My way or the highway" stance. I read one of his messages to Tit and he is all "Admins make the rules." If you read the self-farming threads it is all "self farming is not against the rules", and whenever Earth 2025 is brought up he is quick to state this isn't Earth 2025, it is new leadership and they make the rules on this server.

So going after him was our way of saying, "Yes, the Admins make the rules, but the player base self governs within those rules" Tit asking a couple allies to help kill a country in Primary was the player base self-governing. IMP going after Slag in FFA was the player base self-governing. If he wants to play on this server his admin status will not protect him, he is just another player to me. A player that can be killed at any moment... why? Because the player base self-governs.

mrford Game profile

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Feb 26th 2011, 19:04:03

"player base self-governing" what a crock of fluff

it was IMP throwing a hissy fit. IMP isnt the plater base, it is one clan. You are no better than Tits threatening the admins personally and the servers that they work so hard on with no pay. You all act like it is your RIGHT to play this game. I can assure you it isn't. How much do you pay to play this game? This isn't a commodity that you have purchased and can do with as you wish. This is a FREE online game that admins and mods take time out of their lives to keep up and running for YOUR benefit. They have no obligation to explain anything to you nor justify their actions. They have done an extremely good job keeping this game up and running and have been MORE than accepting than i would of been given the fluff they have to deal with.

You are acting like a little trust fund baby that just got his allowance lowered. Grow the hell up and stop hiding behind ideals and what not. You killed slag's country because you didn't like what happened to Tits. Tits brought this unto himself, not because of what he did in primary, because others have been deleted for the same reason, and reinstated after pleading their cause. No tits did what you did, threw a tantrum and started screaming "do what i want or else"

hat if the admins decide that this isn't worth all the drama and trouble? what are they getting out of this? Pang has already stopped playing. Is this really what you want?

Stop being so fluffing selfish for a moment and think about this. Grow the fluff up, take responsibility for your actions, and move on.
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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

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Feb 26th 2011, 19:32:22

Yeah to say you killed Slag for anything other than this situation is horsefluff.

That country was doing that all set. If it was about self-farming stance it would have happened a long time ago. If it was about self-farming you would have just hit TKO or the other alliances that allow it. Your sole reason for hitting it was because you knew whose country it was.

You were mad about you buddy being banned so you killed Admins country out of spite.

If you going to walk around and act like big fluff at least man up and stop acting high and mighty.

Pang Game profile

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Feb 26th 2011, 19:36:06

Originally posted by Rico:
Politics got Slag killed. Yes, his actions against an IMP member played a huge part of it, but that wasn't the only reason. Truth is I was not a big fan before then. As everyone knows IMP has an anti self-farming stance. Seeing his 500k acre country at the top of my screen just freaking ate at me.

But ultimately the real reason we went after Slag was because of his "My way or the highway" stance. I read one of his messages to Tit and he is all "Admins make the rules." If you read the self-farming threads it is all "self farming is not against the rules", and whenever Earth 2025 is brought up he is quick to state this isn't Earth 2025, it is new leadership and they make the rules on this server.

So going after him was our way of saying, "Yes, the Admins make the rules, but the player base self governs within those rules" Tit asking a couple allies to help kill a country in Primary was the player base self-governing. IMP going after Slag in FFA was the player base self-governing. If he wants to play on this server his admin status will not protect him, he is just another player to me. A player that can be killed at any moment... why? Because the player base self-governs.


no, you play our game so you subscribe to our rules.
I'm still debating what to do about IMP, and seeing posts like that don't help your cause much.

you don't make the rules; we do. when you attack a mod for his moderating on other servers you cross a line that has never been crossed before. it's absolutely inappropriate to target a mod for doing his job on another server -- and the bottom line is that this is what the issue is about.
KC made it seem like IMP was apologetic yesterday, but apparently that isn't the way they actually feel, and that is unfortunate.

I have had access to every piece of information on this subject, deleted posts, emails, ingame info, messages, everything. The way IMP reacted was absolute horsefluff, and this continues that reaction.

regardless of the Primary situation, IMP crossed a major line and to see this kind of "we did what was right, everyone support us. the admins suck." kind of attitude being thrown around here it makes me pretty angry.
we went out of our way to make this server for the FFA community and this is frankly a bunch of spitting in our face by people who just want to cause trouble and destroy that hard work.

if you wanted to solve this in the first place, a simple forum msg to me or qz would have resolved it. I've still only talked to one IMP'er, whose attitude apparently doesn't align with the rest of his clanmates.

Edited By: Pang on Feb 26th 2011, 19:54:03
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mrford Game profile

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Feb 26th 2011, 19:41:09

IMP =/= FFA pang! keep that in mind please
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Desperado Game profile

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Feb 26th 2011, 19:46:26

Originally posted by cRaZyDaVe:
so this country in tourney



notice a key word there?

notice the forum we're in?


come on now...

Originally posted by Primeval:
pants antler

Ozzite Game profile

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Feb 26th 2011, 20:03:25

Originally posted by Pang:
Originally posted by Rico:
Politics got Slag killed. Yes, his actions against an IMP member played a huge part of it, but that wasn't the only reason. Truth is I was not a big fan before then. As everyone knows IMP has an anti self-farming stance. Seeing his 500k acre country at the top of my screen just freaking ate at me.

But ultimately the real reason we went after Slag was because of his "My way or the highway" stance. I read one of his messages to Tit and he is all "Admins make the rules." If you read the self-farming threads it is all "self farming is not against the rules", and whenever Earth 2025 is brought up he is quick to state this isn't Earth 2025, it is new leadership and they make the rules on this server.

So going after him was our way of saying, "Yes, the Admins make the rules, but the player base self governs within those rules" Tit asking a couple allies to help kill a country in Primary was the player base self-governing. IMP going after Slag in FFA was the player base self-governing. If he wants to play on this server his admin status will not protect him, he is just another player to me. A player that can be killed at any moment... why? Because the player base self-governs.


no, you play our game so you subscribe to our rules.
I'm still debating what to do about IMP, and seeing posts like that don't help your cause much.

you don't make the rules; we do. when you attack a mod for his moderating on other servers you cross a line that has never been crossed before. it's absolutely inappropriate to target a mod for doing his job on another server -- and the bottom line is that this is what the issue is about.
KC made it seem like IMP was apologetic yesterday, but apparently that isn't the way they actually feel, and that is unfortunate.

I have had access to every piece of information on this subject, deleted posts, emails, ingame info, messages, everything. The way IMP reacted was absolute horsefluff, and this continues that reaction.

regardless of the Primary situation, IMP crossed a major line and to see this kind of "we did what was right, everyone support us. the admins suck." kind of attitude being thrown around here it makes me pretty angry.
we went out of our way to make this server for the FFA community and this is frankly a bunch of spitting in our face by people who just want to cause trouble and destroy that hard work.

if you wanted to solve this in the first place, a simple forum msg to me or qz would have resolved it. I've still only talked to one IMP'er, whose attitude apparently doesn't align with the rest of his clanmates.



I can confirm that KC is the only reasonable IMPer.
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mrford Game profile

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Feb 26th 2011, 20:10:10

[14:28:41] mrford> holy fluff
[14:28:42] mrford> Rico
[14:28:43] mrford> dude
[14:28:48] mrford> you know thats a TKO country
[14:37:52] Rico> got his attention :P
[14:38:14] mrford> are you trying to kill TKOs top country?
[14:38:52] mrford> dont get me wrong, im loving the fact that you wont have any chems for our war
[14:38:57] mrford> just curious
[14:39:28] Rico> trying to get Slag's attention after deleting our member
[14:39:59] mrford> that is slag?
[14:40:20] Rico> yup
[14:40:36] mrford> peobably a poor move

that was in #IMP kinda DURING your chem run. wanna cut the bullfluff now Rico and man up?
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Feb 26th 2011, 20:22:41

[quote poster=mrford; 7831; 134235][14:28:41] mrford> holy fluff
[14:28:42] mrford> Rico
[14:28:43] mrford> dude
[14:28:48] mrford> you know thats a TKO country
[14:37:52] Rico> got his attention :P
[14:38:14] mrford> are you trying to kill TKOs top country?
[14:38:52] mrford> dont get me wrong, im loving the fact that you wont have any chems for our war
[14:38:57] mrford> just curious
[14:39:28] Rico> trying to get Slag's attention after deleting our member
[14:39:59] mrford> that is slag?
[14:40:20] Rico> yup
[14:40:36] mrford> peobably a poor move

that was in #IMP kinda DURING your chem run. wanna cut the bullfluff now Rico and man up? [/quote]

maybe they should have tried to get my attention or qz's attention if they weren't happy with slag...
this is one of those circumstances where it's so backwards that I'm not sure the best way to react :p
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Rico Game profile

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Feb 26th 2011, 21:18:34

[quote poster=mrford; 7831; 134235][14:28:41] wanna cut the bullfluff now Rico and man up? [/quote]

Man up? Man up to what? I fully admit I'm responsible for killing Slag's country. I ordered the hit, I participated, and I have zero remorse over it. This is a war game after all. If you don't like someone, you kill their country. We are not playing Care Bears here or Barbie dolls.

Now if someone doesn't like what we did I welcome them to do something about it. Within the confines of the game of course. Like I said, the community self governs.

LeftyHa8er Game profile

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Feb 26th 2011, 21:31:33

fine ban us all from the game

Pang Game profile

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Feb 26th 2011, 21:42:03

the issue isn't that you killed his country, it's that you killed his country because he did his job on another server.

"it's just a game" -- maybe take some of your own "advice" and realize that it's a game. You killed someone's country because you don't like ONE thing he did, after over a year of great work to provide the platform for all of your to interact.

Also, the community does not govern the admins. The FFA community does not govern the Primary community. You are all free to do what you want to eachother because of FFA-related things, but when you bring it to the level of "we killed an mod's country on another server because we don't agree with his deletion on another server" that is not governing, that is acting like babies when you don't get your way.

Continuing to push us on this, especially after our attempts to reach out to IMP, makes me feel like you no longer have this game's interest at heart at all. In which case, I'd invite you to leave and never look back.

Edited By: Pang on Feb 26th 2011, 21:44:23
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Rico Game profile

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Feb 26th 2011, 21:48:25

Push things? I'm not pushing anything, I'm just responding. We already handled things our way and done with it.

Rico Game profile

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Feb 26th 2011, 22:00:11

I've only asked one thing from the admins. I just wanted to know what specifically Tit did to be originally deleted. I've asked this for multiple days now and nobody has given me a straight answer.

Other than that, there is really nothing else to talk about.

Twain Game profile

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Feb 26th 2011, 22:06:24

The problem though is that's really between Titanium and the mods.

It might be one thing for a leader to advocate for a member, but it's another completely for Pang, qz or Slagpit to give out specific information to anyone other than the specific person accused. If you want to know what he did, I think your best way is to ask Titanium and hope that he'll be honest with you and not just selectively tell you bits and pieces.

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Feb 26th 2011, 22:11:24

Originally posted by cRaZyDaVe:
so this country in tourney that i dont even know messages me asking for help killing another country 2.5 days ago

i reported it just to see what would happen and guess what...

it has not been deleted

so much for spirit of the rules


uhm ingame messages to random ppl to forge ingame alliances is what your suppose to do, to threaten with outside force ( like me saying I lead focus in ffa, and they'll come here and kick your a$$) is not.
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Feb 26th 2011, 23:04:10

Originally posted by Crippler ICD:
Originally posted by cRaZyDaVe:
so this country in tourney that i dont even know messages me asking for help killing another country 2.5 days ago

i reported it just to see what would happen and guess what...

it has not been deleted

so much for spirit of the rules



uhm ingame messages to random ppl to forge ingame alliances is what your suppose to do, to threaten with outside force ( like me saying I lead focus in ffa, and they'll come here and kick your a$$) is not.


CDs example SHOULD lead to a ban..according to the "Spirit" rule on solo servers..
It just seems to me that there needs to be a CLEAR example, instead of allowing it to be open to interpretation.
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joe2 Game profile

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Feb 26th 2011, 23:11:21

CD is an idiot and is trolling the admins, You guys think you deserve an explanation for something that is none of your business. All IMP has proven in this thread is that it is full of idiots.

mrford Game profile

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Feb 26th 2011, 23:12:01

+1
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Feb 26th 2011, 23:12:34

CD even said himself he didn't want the country to be deleted so what was the point of this thread other than to troll?