Do FFAers actually enjoy very early wars?

mrford

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Dec 12th 2011, 5:29:15

i dont

especially against NBK. those fools be crazy

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Dec 12th 2011, 5:30:11

I like them anytime :)

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KyleCleric

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Dec 12th 2011, 5:37:44

Early wars can be fun.

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underachiever

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Dec 12th 2011, 5:55:29

i like early wars but i don't like them lasting forever

Cabrito

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Dec 12th 2011, 6:00:16

would ya rather it be late in a reset when your trying to net?

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Dec 12th 2011, 6:35:45

i like them more now that u have the 120 120.
a 120 120 turn FS when u got 2000 missiles isn't fun. no matter what side you on really

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Dec 12th 2011, 6:41:30

early wars can be a good measure of a clans warring abilities when the playing field is level, and you dont have one side stocked with thousands of chems to do all the hard work for you.

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MissyV

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Dec 12th 2011, 7:23:36

No.

llaar

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Dec 12th 2011, 7:38:57

well, how about

Slagpit

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Dec 12th 2011, 7:44:47

I was under the impression that early wars are only a measure of activity and dedication. Is it different in FFA?

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Dec 12th 2011, 7:47:03

Probably a bit of dedication and a bit of crazy. More crazy. But the two clans in the early war now.. not unexpected at all

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GunGrave

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Dec 12th 2011, 7:50:20

well i don't think anyone ever claimed we had a tight grip on sanity, not even ourselves. lol

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Dizology

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Dec 12th 2011, 8:18:40

I'll kill anything, anytime. I can't deny the crazy thing.

I'll just throw this out here, What's the difference between restarting 30 times a set and killing with restarts (last set), and early warring?

Sometimes I'd almost prefer to be restarting and killing huge teched up countries in comparison - except without the dying part lol.

I guess I don't mind warring in any situation.

Bsnake

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Dec 12th 2011, 10:27:48

i dont give a fluff....

kill and restart...

takes a different skill or country build...

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synoder

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Dec 12th 2011, 12:11:08

I would rather be FSed early on before I have spent a month building up my countries only to log in and find them all dead. At least early on I am not that far behind when I restart.

texhomastud

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Dec 12th 2011, 12:44:31

I love war--anytime and all the time

Kill4Free

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Dec 12th 2011, 13:59:40

The sooner you start a war, the less time you waste netting :P

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Kill4Free

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Dec 12th 2011, 14:01:02

Originally posted by Slagpit:

I was under the impression that early wars are only a measure of activity and dedication. Is it different in FFA?

Last few times NBK was hit (Not the TKO one), we lost 25% of our clan to chems. Pretty hard to make up for that even if you had equal numbers.

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Dec 12th 2011, 15:06:41

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Dec 12th 2011, 15:14:06

Originally posted by Kill4Free:

Originally posted by Slagpit:

I was under the impression that early wars are only a measure of activity and dedication. Is it different in FFA?

Last few times NBK was hit (Not the TKO one), we lost 25% of our clan to chems. Pretty hard to make up for that even if you had equal numbers.

There are a couple of alliances here that thrive on that strat. They wait until you are already in a war and then hit you late.

SublimeNightmare

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Dec 12th 2011, 16:39:54

At least an early war it is a numbers game + activity. Any way can be uneven but at least if your side gets beat you didn't spend a month on those countries.

The worst is fighting one war, having most of your countries survive and your restarts FA'd. But before you can restock missiles & stock you get FS'd by a clan who has been stocking all set. Almost impossible to get the win and you end up butchering your countries just trying to get a kill or two in their top 20.

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mike

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Dec 12th 2011, 16:46:33

holy fluff 25% of a clan would mean 60-80 lost in an FS to only chems. has NBK ever even received an FS that took out that many to only chems? i'd love to see stats, must have been epic by EE standards since numbers are fewer here than on old earth

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Dec 12th 2011, 17:26:52

AoDT attacked us and we lost something like 120 to chems out of 340. When SF attacked us last set, I believe we lost something like 45 to chems within the first day.

AoDT probably had the best FS ever done in FFA, they went missile stocking from day 1, then hit us with 450 countries to our 340, we lost 200+ of our countries in the first 48 hours. Fought for the rest of the set lemming style, they finished the set with 70 countries alive. (Though the kill to death ratio was in their favor pretty strongly)

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Dec 12th 2011, 17:43:17

Originally posted by GunGrave:

well i don't think anyone ever claimed we had a tight grip on sanity, not even ourselves. lol

Confirmed!, NBK is full of crazy people with itchy trigger fingers!

Pain

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Dec 12th 2011, 20:17:57

early wars get especially lopsided when one side has more countries then the other because it takes significantly less hits and resources to kill a country so typically you can get more kills with the same amount of turns.

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kemo

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Dec 12th 2011, 20:40:29

i prefer no earlier then 2 weeks. anyone can bring down a small country with no stock or tech with no challenge

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Kill4Free

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Dec 12th 2011, 23:25:53

Well Pain, in terms of hits, I am not noticing much of a difference, it is a bit too late to get landkills, and even BR kills are 170 hits if you are fairly close in NW. Your statement can be applied to late wars too when one side has significantly more chems then another. And a 1 month old country is pretty damn hard to replace compared to a few day old country.

In my opinion, a later set war benefits the attacker far more then an early set war, and the general convention is mass build up chems and spies for a massive FS 3 weeks in. There have been very few cases in FFA, where equal ish sized clans fought and the attacker lost.

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Dec 12th 2011, 23:28:21

i like :)

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Twain

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Dec 13th 2011, 0:56:11

Originally posted by mrford:

i dont

especially against NBK. those fools be crazy

Couldn't agree more.

I'd hate to fight an early war anyway, but if I had to, I'd pretty much say NBK would be the last clan I'd want to fight in that situation.

Our advantage in PAN would basically just be outgrowing our opponent and probably having more stock (probably the main reason PAN was able to do some pretty significant damage in the xGD/NBK war).

Without that advantage, I wouldn't like our odds against most clans, but especially not NBK.

Pain

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Dec 13th 2011, 1:19:00

Nbk def has the advantage in a week 1 war. No argument there. Sure as hell wouldn't have wanted to be in sf's shoes this set.

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