Not good enough guys. These are the demands of the Earth community for us to grant the rest of you forgiveness:

1.) hanlong and TurtleCrawler are banned from LaF in perpetuity, no guest access, nothing.

2.) Any head that is discovered to have allowed either one of them back in(even under an alias) will also be removed from LaF.

3.) These actions have to be stated publicly and unequivocally.

4.) You turn over everything they said which may be attributed to his hacking at least to the admins, but ideally to the greater Earth community.

5.) You acknowledge that while hanlong may have been tightlipped, Turtle Crawler could not go 5 minutes without running his fluffing mouth and that obviously there exist other people who at least knew somewhat what was going on.

6.) If you do end up getting ganged for a reset just take it like men and don't piss and moan about it.

Orkin always takes it like a man.

lol @ 5

Punish players who had nothing to do with it. I didn't support that crap when NA was in the scopes and I definitely don't now obviously. Pretty sure the 1st is already done btw :P Hi ork!

locket supports when legit alliances get 'put in the scopes' like MD, Evo, SOL. He supports punishing players for 'targeting netgaining alliances!!!' or 'conspiring to possibly first strike us!!' but not for 'your alliance leader cheated to have a huge unfair advantages'.

cool

Don't bother to twist anything I say Dagga. It won't work and it is pointless for you to try. I am sure even you don't believe most of what you say.

I'm in laf and don't mind getting killed, so go for it. Don't need forgiveness for what two individuals did. It doesn't matter if they were leaders or not. What matters is that if you have issues with us, just go for it.

Please break it down for me, I tried to make it simple. Please show me where I am factually incorrect.

1. You didn't support NA being brought into line for their heads cheating.
2. You don't support LaF being brought into line for their heads cheating.
3. You obviously supported the FS of MD, due to stolen logs.
4. You obviously supported the FS of EVO, due to .. they insulted you with their country names.
5. You obviously supported the last two hits on SOL, this set and three sets ago, due to .. who knows, SOL apparently targeted netgaining alliances back in 2010 ??

So you like it when legit alliances get put 'in the scopes' by superior numbers, with dubious information and extensive pact manipulation - but when it's time to take your lumps for ALL of that and the cheating sitting there like a cherry on top, you don't agree.

Ok, got it. :)

I'm pretty sure 1-4 are already satisfied. Just waiting on 5-6 :P

You are simply trying to invent my supposed opinions that fit your purpose Dagga. Grow up someday. If you wish to continue to play kids games maybe you should go volunteer at the YMCA or something. Much less self destructive.

Points 1 & 2:

"I didn't support that crap when NA was in the scopes and I definitely don't now obviously"

Point 3, 4, 5: Are you suggesting you did not give complete support to hanlong?

What am I inventing :)

I didnt bother to read your list and I wont. You never post for a good reason. Bye.

Mdemon... not really the stance I would be taking. Acting tough when your alliance is in the wrong. Your leaders represent you to the rest of the game. Their actions reflect on the whole alliance. SG knows this and is actively trying to fix it. You may not want to sabotage his efforts...

i don't think he's being tough, simply stating this is a game, HLW and TC have wronged alot of people inside and outside of their own alliance. Obviously people are going to take revenge on laf regardless of those two being there or not and that he doesn't mind.

After all this is a game. Laf has handed out some astounding asswhoopings of late and its legit members are prepared for the backlash and will move on from it.

+1 En4cer :)

What En4cer said. I understand people will want their revenge. And they're entitled to it. But we'll see whether this will turn out to be revenge for what hanlong/TC did, or whether it's a vendetta again LaF as a whole. There is a difference, and in time we'll know what the true motives are.

What usual clean Lafers don`t understand is that Laf = hanlong + TC until 36 hours ago.

+1 en4cer

All of the Laf guys crying on here about collective punishment do realize that all those ass-whoopins you guys were dealing out over the last year were illegitimate cheats, right? even if your members were not cheating and playing hard - if your leaders were browsing peoples country builds and BC forums - you were pretty much going to be invincible.

I hate that class acts like SG and En4cer are getting caught up in this, but this is certainly not the first time an alliance has had to pay for its leaders sins.

It makes me sad that in my personal dealings with hanlong, I really liked him. This is a terrible blow to the game - I hope that TC and hanlng realize that they are responsible when 1A takes a huge dip in participants next set

TheOrkingMan

LAF stated yesterday, that they were not going to call in allies next reset...

That was done in Son Goku's update.


IF you acknowledge they've already done 1-4, and I've pointed out 6 already happened.

Well that just leaves 5 to investigate and that takes time,

but you have accomplished 5 of the 6 community demands in less than 24 hrs is one of the fastest responses I've ever seen from an alliance.

Son Goku has handled this very well.