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Truth Seekers Game profile

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Jan 4th 2014, 6:08:48

But you are banning players accounts from playing based on opinions stated on AT. This is the first time I (we) have ever heard of AT being carried over into the game. Anyone curious enough to go through the logs could mount the argument your continual trolling over the years should have your account disabled were you not in a position of power abuse.

Are you deliberately trying to keep this quiet or are you at least going to justify your actions with a reason.

JusticeFighters

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Jan 4th 2014, 6:18:14

I think so!

Billyjoe of UCF Game profile

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Jan 4th 2014, 6:19:56

oh man truth seeker!

grimjoww Game profile

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Jan 4th 2014, 6:46:03

aw

Pang Game profile

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Jan 4th 2014, 7:08:09

Ugh, since you won't stop being such a jerk... you were abusing a flaw in the new forum handle system to create new handles to look like other people's names. I turned off your game account so you couldn't keep creating them on your main account. That way we can just delete the new account(s) you create and it's easier cleanup.

So, in short, I disabled your EE account for exploiting a bug in the handle creation system. Once I got home, I patched the bug, and unbanned the account. I messaged Makinso alerting him of this when I did it.

And why are you banned... here's an example of what you agreed to on a much earlier ban:

Originally posted by dagga:

From: dagga
Feb 07, 2011
To: Pang
Same message going to Slagpit -

You guys are both on opposite sides of the spectrum to both the alliance I play for and the way I play the game. You have taken potshots at my alliance and I have taken potshots at yours. I have called into question your ability to remain unbiased as an administrator in the face of your, at times, quite pointed commentary on the alliance I play for. We don't need to rehash these incidents but they relate to wars fought between Evo and LaF and in some instances go back a long way.

You claim to separate these comments from your admin work. To this point I have no reason to doubt this despite the fact I feel both of you guys overstep the mark -on occasion- and instead of being the voice of calm and authority, become a voice like mine - an agitator. I have seen a lot of improvement and feel that both of you have taken steps back from leading alliances and this can only strengthen your position.

I have played this game since Dec' 99 and can contribute a lot to this community so here's my pitch. Remove the over-the-top 12 month ban and I will promise to keep my comments about admin specific topics. I won't blur alliance politics with admin politics and will try to be a positive influence on a community that I want to grow and thrive as both of you do.

Pang, I know you in particular have been calling for a stop to "SOL trolls". Some common ground must be found. You cannot keep banning players like myself and BiffBuff (who doesnt even play) and find a common ground. Unban me, and let's see if we can improve this toxic relationship that is developing between SOL and the admins.


Originally posted by pang:

From: Pang
Feb 09, 2011
To: dagga
Alright,

we chatted about it briefly and we decided we're willing to give you another chance.

just remember to bring a more positive attitude to the forums when interacting with other players who may not share the same beliefs as you -- whether they wear the admin tag or not. and always bring admin-level stuff to us privately before launching into public smear campaigns.

Play nice.


Originally posted by dagga:

From: dagga
Feb 09, 2011
To: Pang
Thank you, I'm aware that a further detrioration in the relationship will result in another ban. Let's see how we go.


you didn't keep up your end of that agreement then or now. lather+rinse+repeat that kind of thing another few times over the years as well since we're generally pretty lax on letting people off the hook. it's generally less effort to just toss the threads and you than to engage in such discussion.

also, drop your ego... we ban you because you pop up and basically make posts that ask to be banned not because anyone has it out for you as a person. as I said on a mod thread when you started doing this a few days ago, I assumed you were one of SoL's trolls and were flying under the radar. take your tinfoil hat off.

oh, and thanks for your interest in what I'm up to! I've been on vacation and have been more active than the last little while -- both code-wise and seeing what the community is up to.
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JusticeFighters

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Jan 4th 2014, 7:26:12

So he's active ingame now?

ngUywQbK

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Jan 4th 2014, 7:34:24

That is a lie on the timeline of the ban. My in-game account was banned before exploiting any impersonation 'bug'. Your posting of private messages from 2011 makes me even more suspicious of your motives and makes you look weak. Most people would agree I was being entirely reasonable in the request for an unban - now Im just sick of your bullfluff of just banning for the fun of it.

Your goal is censorship. You cannot take criticism on the chin and you resort to lengthy bans. You tried to do that in 2011, again in 2012 and now again this year.

I think there is an onus on an admin to provide the community with a reason for issuing 12 month and 4 year bans on players that have played the game longer than you. You won't come up with one because most people will laugh.

'Hes insulting me'.

GodHead Dibs Game profile

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Jan 4th 2014, 8:19:54

people who seek the truth are actually attempting to be omniscient because if they aren't omniscient then they can't tell that which is a lie. the handle should be renamed to Pooh Distributors because it's not about seeking the truth. it's about spreading the pooh around. you either know the truth or you don't. there ain't no seeking it.
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Pang Game profile

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Jan 4th 2014, 13:57:26

nope.... the account was disabled yesterday morning about 2PM game time when I saw a bunch of new accounts made by you and a thread attacking us. you did do more after on a secondary account, as I expected and outlined above. I fixed the bug around 3AM GT (when I got home from my day) and unbanned your account. qz was out all day too; we chatted while I was fixing it when he got back. you're a crazy person to believe anything different.

there's criticism and then there's just being a jackass for the sake of being a jackass. we're all just sick of your bullfluff over and over and over again.

thread closed, i'm done engaging you in this fluff. this is why your forum account is banned in the first place -- you just want to cause trouble.

Edited By: Pang on Jan 4th 2014, 17:26:04
See Original Post
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