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Duna Game profile

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Feb 17th 2014, 6:51:59

It seems LaF knew Neo&Rage FS time. And i doubt Neo&Rage told it. So, its probably a spy. So, can you please delete all LaF for it?

galleri Game profile

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Feb 17th 2014, 7:04:07

That doesn't constitute deleting an entire clan Duna. All clans have spies and it is not against the game rules for spies to be in clans. All clans have friends with friends in other clans who cannot keep their mouths shut. There is also this.... one clan is pacted to all 3. One clan leader has info from the other two and runs to tell the other clan. This happens alot.


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Duna Game profile

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Feb 17th 2014, 7:39:11

Thats just a suggestion. And its just my opinion.
As admins want game to be fair, its logical to delete all LaF members, so they will never again play in alliance with player(s), who:
- have a spy in other alliance
OR
- talk with other alliance leader to find information
OR
- find members in other alliance with big mouth
OR
- use other non fair play methods to get info from other alliance(s).

h2orich Game profile

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Feb 17th 2014, 8:16:33

I have 2 accounts, one in LaF and one in NeoFed, so I told myself about FS time.

galleri Game profile

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Feb 17th 2014, 9:18:30

Originally posted by Duna:
Thats just a suggestion. And its just my opinion.
As admins want game to be fair, its logical to delete all LaF members, so they will never again play in alliance with player(s), who:
- have a spy in other alliance
OR
- talk with other alliance leader to find information
OR
- find members in other alliance with big mouth
OR
- use other non fair play methods to get info from other alliance(s).

I understand that was suggestion. I have lots of opinions too, noone ever likes mine. Like we girls should really rule the world :P


<cloud-rasp> It’s real bad
<cloud-rasp> DDOSing my DESTOCK

Kahuna: Ya you just wrote the fkn equation, not helping me at all. Lol n I hated algebra.

"I'll code it in php & you can code review it."

Duna Game profile

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Feb 17th 2014, 11:50:00

Originally posted by h2orich:
I have 2 accounts, one in LaF and one in NeoFed, so I told myself about FS time.


Then i suggest to delete NeoFed also.

Marshal Game profile

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Feb 17th 2014, 16:58:31

laf knew that they'll get fs'd, few days ago they rejected landtrading due upcoming war.
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Duna Game profile

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Feb 17th 2014, 18:11:36

It dont give exact time. And LaF made more attacks in FS than NR. So its obviously they knew.

Atryn Game profile

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Feb 17th 2014, 19:41:11


I think you are missing some key information.

And really, could you troll AT and not the B&S board? Our admins have plenty to do.

Duna Game profile

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Feb 17th 2014, 19:52:13

Oh, if you are so smart, can you please point me this key information?

And its not troll, its serious suggestion.
As for troll - yeah, ofc, our admins have plenty to do, they need to rework formulas again to make it even more useless.

KoHeartsGPA Game profile

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Feb 19th 2014, 1:13:15

I despise LaF, that being said I gotta lol at this suggestion, spies have been around since mehul owned this game, it is part of the game!
Mess with me you better kill me, or I'll just take your pride & joy and jack it up
(•_•)

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braden Game profile

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Feb 19th 2014, 1:58:30

rd was deleted for having spies in other alliances, why not laf? rd was deleted for ""hacking"" the game, why wasn't laf when tc or hlw, or whomever it was, gifted themselves all that godmode and the like?


(and yes, i just taught myself polemics :P)

Viceroy Game profile

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Feb 19th 2014, 4:57:43

To be safe, probably ought to delete everybody...
And, Monsters, do not forget to specify, when time and place shall serve, that I am an ass.

Duna Game profile

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Feb 19th 2014, 5:49:08

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
I despise LaF, that being said I gotta lol at this suggestion, spies have been around since mehul owned this game, it is part of the game!


Alot of things is part of game from mehul era. It doesnt mean you dont need to change it.

KoHeartsGPA Game profile

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Feb 19th 2014, 7:30:50

Originally posted by Duna:
Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
I despise LaF, that being said I gotta lol at this suggestion, spies have been around since mehul owned this game, it is part of the game!


Alot of things is part of game from mehul era. It doesnt mean you dont need to change it.


All the cheating should go, I don't consider spies to be cheating, it happens in real world 2014 as it did hundreds of years ago, if you are deseptive and charming enough to be in more than one alliance site spying, so be it, those alliances have learn from their mistakes and get better at filtering out their members.

Hacking is serious and has to be stopped, but don't confuse hacking with spying, they are apples and oranges.
Mess with me you better kill me, or I'll just take your pride & joy and jack it up
(•_•)

https://youtu.be/...pxFw4?si=mCDXT3t1vmFgn0qn

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Duna Game profile

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Feb 19th 2014, 8:03:16

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
Originally posted by Duna:
Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
I despise LaF, that being said I gotta lol at this suggestion, spies have been around since mehul owned this game, it is part of the game!


Alot of things is part of game from mehul era. It doesnt mean you dont need to change it.


All the cheating should go, I don't consider spies to be cheating, it happens in real world 2014 as it did hundreds of years ago, if you are deseptive and charming enough to be in more than one alliance site spying, so be it, those alliances have learn from their mistakes and get better at filtering out their members.

Hacking is serious and has to be stopped, but don't confuse hacking with spying, they are apples and oranges.


First of all - i never refered my post to hacking (rd situation), i just made a suggestion according to how i see situation here.
But as you want to talk about hacking (rd situation) - we can do it.
Though hacking and spying has difference beyond game borders, it make same influence on game. So it should be "rewarded" with same punishment.

As for cheating.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheating
Cheating is the getting of reward for ability by dishonest means.


It obvious for me, that spying is dishonest way of getting advantage, so its obvious cheating. If you dont consider it bad, that just show, that you moral or ethic isnt perfect. Or if we (EE community) accept spying (not a ingame operation, but getting some info from other alliance with some way) as game method, than we should not punish some alliances (and yes, here i point directly to rd) for it.

Atryn Game profile

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Feb 19th 2014, 13:13:00

Originally posted by Duna:
First of all - i never refered my post to hacking (rd situation), i just made a suggestion according to how i see situation here.
But as you want to talk about hacking (rd situation) - we can do it.
Though hacking and spying has difference beyond game borders, it make same influence on game. So it should be "rewarded" with same punishment.

As for cheating.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheating
Cheating is the getting of reward for ability by dishonest means.


It obvious for me, that spying is dishonest way of getting advantage, so its obvious cheating. If you dont consider it bad, that just show, that you moral or ethic isnt perfect. Or if we (EE community) accept spying (not a ingame operation, but getting some info from other alliance with some way) as game method, than we should not punish some alliances (and yes, here i point directly to rd) for it.


And it is obvious to DANGER that gaining an advantage by attacking other countries is "dishonest" means. So we should just delete everyone who attacks?

I dislike spying. I don't engage in it. I think it is a sign of weakness and poor character. But it is not a rules violation.

Cheating is deliberately working around the mechanics of the programming. They have nothing to do with each other.

As for braden, I think you've been here long enough to know your question was already answered a million times over.

Trife Game profile

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Feb 19th 2014, 15:33:05

if you're experiencing this much butthurt duna, you should probably see a doctor

Duna Game profile

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Feb 20th 2014, 5:41:58

Originally posted by Atryn:
And it is obvious to DANGER that gaining an advantage by attacking other countries is "dishonest" means. So we should just delete everyone who attacks?


Attacking is game mechanics. Its how game done. Why its dishonest?

Originally posted by Atryn:
I dislike spying. I don't engage in it. I think it is a sign of weakness and poor character. But it is not a rules violation.

Cheating is deliberately working around the mechanics of the programming. They have nothing to do with each other.

As for braden, I think you've been here long enough to know your question was already answered a million times over.


Whats the difference between hacking and nongame spying in terms of game influence?
Basically, are you telling me that you accept spying but dont accept hacking, so its different?



Trife, how its happen you always come to my thread and trying to accuse me in butthurt? Do you love me or what?

KoHeartsGPA Game profile

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Feb 20th 2014, 5:47:57

Trife is obsessed with butts.

And still, hacking and spying other alliances/clans is apples and oranges.
Mess with me you better kill me, or I'll just take your pride & joy and jack it up
(•_•)

https://youtu.be/...pxFw4?si=mCDXT3t1vmFgn0qn

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Duna Game profile

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Feb 20th 2014, 7:07:22

Its both fruits and both can be eaten. In term of food it has no difference.

KoHeartsGPA Game profile

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Feb 20th 2014, 7:33:15

Originally posted by Duna:
Its both fruits and both can be eaten. In term of food it has no difference.


I'm done here.
Mess with me you better kill me, or I'll just take your pride & joy and jack it up
(•_•)

https://youtu.be/...pxFw4?si=mCDXT3t1vmFgn0qn

-=TSO~DKnights~ICD~XI~LaF~SKA=-

S.F. Giants 2010, 2012, 2014 World Series Champions, fluff YEAH!

Viceroy Game profile

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Feb 20th 2014, 16:49:23

Joining other alliances under false pretenses is a form of meta-gaming, in some regards similar to collaboration on a solo server. While I don't necessarily agree with Duna on his solutions, I find it curious that so many dismiss conversations on appropriate levels of meta-gaming so quickly.
And, Monsters, do not forget to specify, when time and place shall serve, that I am an ass.

tellarion Game profile

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Feb 20th 2014, 17:52:29

Duna, when did you become such a whiny troll?