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freedy19 Game profile

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Apr 2nd 2014, 21:59:24

Why does the game encourage you to remain offline by giving you a bonus for being off for an extended period of time?

mrford Game profile

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Apr 2nd 2014, 22:01:13

Back when the game was first made in the mid to late 90s, it was to decrease server load. It is something that hasn't been needed for quite some time, but has only been eliminated on the ffa. It was eliminated on FFA because of the portal and being able to run your countries with our actually login in to them.
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blid

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Apr 2nd 2014, 22:17:24

People aren't really campaigning to get rid of it because it encourages people not to babysit their countries all day, which lessens the time demands to be competitive. It's pretty meaningless in Express though because you can't sit logged out for 18 hours too many times over the course of the 1800 turns in the reset.
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Netsquash Game profile

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Apr 2nd 2014, 23:33:33

Originally posted by blid:
People aren't really campaigning to get rid of it because it encourages people not to babysit their countries all day, which lessens the time demands to be competitive. It's pretty meaningless in Express though because you can't sit logged out for 18 hours too many times over the course of the 1800 turns in the reset.


Not meaningless for the first 2 days... store turns and get bonus turns... play hard thursday etc

lol... even got away with saturday afternoon to sunday morning 18 hours last set for 6 bonus turns.... 15m turrets and 120% tech.. thought meh nobody dumb would hit and retal

well i was kinda right... dumb just played at 2pm that day instead

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Apr 2nd 2014, 23:36:35

Still meaningless. 12, 18 turns on top of 1800? Plus there's cost to those bonuses from not playing.
Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:
Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

mrford Game profile

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Apr 2nd 2014, 23:44:52

free GDI!
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Netsquash Game profile

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Apr 3rd 2014, 0:13:57

Originally posted by blid:
Still meaningless. 12, 18 turns on top of 1800? Plus there's cost to those bonuses from not playing.


If you play it right.. you can usually get a couple 18's and couple 12's. If you play the early part right... to turn 99 on wednesday for 18 hours.... then thursday when you come on again after 18 hours you have free GDI and play out your turns with little to no risk at all... easiest 12 turns ever. The last 6 turns depends on comf you are to get them. I find getting 2 12 hour bonuses are easy since you are sleeping 8 hours anyhow.... whats 4 more hours.. unless you are really scared of a retal

I'll take 18 more turns if it doesnt hurt me

Normally at the stockpiling phase I am getting 70-75k jets/turrets a turn... which even at a modest after tax price of $130 a unit = $165-175 million more stockpile. = 750k NW more after everything said and done at the end for the 18 turns.


You can be like a picky kid eater and say NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOO I DON"T WANT MY CARROTS>>>> THEY ARE NASTY

Or you accept that maxing out every benefit you can is the only way you can top 20 consistently without a worry at all

blid

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Apr 3rd 2014, 0:45:11

There are costs to staying logged out that long too often.
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Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

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Apr 3rd 2014, 0:59:50

Guess it depends on your style. I don't get many if any bonus in express and I can still compete for top 20 most sets if I have the time.
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Netsquash Game profile

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Apr 3rd 2014, 1:18:34

Originally posted by blid:
There are costs to staying logged out that long too often.


Costs of getting land grabbed? costs of missing out on market prices? Please go on because all i have been hearing is no evidence

I won't argue with you late stage.. it is risky in some ways... but early on you are -EV player if you dont take advantage of the +12 turns.... think of it this way.. more wiggle room incase you make a screw up

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Apr 3rd 2014, 1:27:57

If you stay logged out to get the bonuses you can't gamble. One bit of luck reselling bushels at $64 or $88 for example might equal the income of many turns.

blid

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Apr 3rd 2014, 2:00:11

Originally posted by Netsquash:
Originally posted by blid:
There are costs to staying logged out that long too often.


Costs of getting land grabbed? costs of missing out on market prices? Please go on because all i have been hearing is no evidence

I won't argue with you late stage.. it is risky in some ways... but early on you are -EV player if you dont take advantage of the +12 turns.... think of it this way.. more wiggle room incase you make a screw up
Makes you play from behind, forces you to buy up loads of defense if it's late, means you have to spend time out not grabbing, all for an inconsequential benefit. I'll take the first one or two, but after that...
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Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

freedy19 Game profile

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Apr 3rd 2014, 2:24:28

I agree, I think it's worth getting the first 2 18 hour bonuses and maybe 1 or 2 12 hour bonuses after that. But I still don't understand why they reward you for staying offline for 18 hours. I think they should just take it out all together, but what do I know I'm just a noob.

What did you guys mean when you said free GDI? how do you get free GDI?

blid

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Apr 3rd 2014, 2:33:30

Click the bonuses button. Costs 16 points
Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:
Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

freedy19 Game profile

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Apr 3rd 2014, 2:39:18

yea but what does this have to do with that? Do you guys use the bonus points on free GDI? or on booms? or turns?

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Apr 3rd 2014, 2:44:50

Originally posted by mrford:
Back when the game was first made in the mid to late 90s, it was to decrease server load. It is something that hasn't been needed for quite some time, but has only been eliminated on the ffa. It was eliminated on FFA because of the portal and being able to run your countries with our actually login in to them.


That ^^^

Fun times, depending on the time of day it was very difficult to login let alone play turns due to traffic hehe
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hsifreta Game profile

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Apr 3rd 2014, 4:44:23

it helps a little in express. you can get your first bonus after 24 hours, play to turn 99, get your second bonus after 18 hours before going crazy active. esp if you slow play commi