Purely hypothetical..

Say a country in a small alliance suffers four grabs from countries in a larger alliance, within 48 hours (1 single, and 1 triple tap)..
The country successfully retaliates once against each aggressor...
The player in question then forgoes a second round consisting of two more PS retals (which he could EASILY have taken) and instead waits in the offending alliance's IRC channel hoping to find a resolution which would make everyone happy..

The original triple tapper then quad taps another member of the smaller alliance, careful to wait 48 hours from his initial aggression...

What actions would the smaller alliance be allowed to take against such aggression, without incurring the wrath of the EWPP signatories?

BLOW THEM UP, SAM!

HA!

Go to hell small alliances.

i don't think the EWPP is intended to override your retal policies?

WHY ARE THE EXPLOSIONS NOT HAPPENING YET? HAS DANGER LOST THE DETONATION CODES?

-RATTLEHEAD
HEAD OF RATTLING

Requiem, which alliance are you in? What is the cause of your disliking small alliances?

just curious!

I hope everything works out for clan DANGER!

EDIT: Hypothetically, of course.

Agreed.

I believe that the above totally hypothetical situation however, goes beyond normal retal policies. The triple-and-then-quad tapper is clearly abusing someone to a point which would normally provoke a war. However, s/he is being careful to stay within the bounds of the EWPP's stated limits on farming. The smaller alliance would be left with no recourse at this hypothetical point other than outright exploding the aggressor, but a strict interpretation of the EWPP's text would indicate that the small alliance would then become a target of the EWPP signatories.

So, given all that, how would the smaller alliance be allowed to respond?

Hypothetically, of course.

try to do something...little man

Sam, if you want to war do it. The EWPP must be read against the context in which it was signed. The idiot clans which had got themselves into a boring, repetitive cycle where they knew they would war each set and had to hit very early for fear of a FS from their enemies signed an agreement.

Being idiots they did not notice that those signing represented all the major clans and that if any one else FS each of them could deal with that w/o help.

So they threatened the rest of us with armagedon if any of us warred early.

Happily they did not mean this. They could not care less what DANGER or any other small clan does.

If you are pissed off at the treatment you receive war.

It's fun, you will enjoy it, hopefully your war partner will too, one thing is sure, anyone in their clan who wanted to netgain this set will be pissed off. :)

oh no I was just being sarcastic. Love you!

i tend to agree with everyone here SAM where are the explosion????

i was waiting for them to happen by now as i've been watching the news and it looks like he's farming you :P

Hypothetical situation. What if a danger country does harmful ops on a country in another tag and wonders why they get hit

7.6 hours ago
A chemical missile from ZOMBIE BANKS (#338) was launched at your lands!
It was stopped by your defenses! Your SDI has been slightly weakened.

7.6 hours ago
ZOMBIE BANKS (#338) attempted to bomb your structures! You killed 1931 enemy spies.

7.6 hours ago
ZOMBIE BANKS (#338) attempted to bomb your structures! You killed 1895 enemy spies.

7.6 hours ago
ZOMBIE BANKS (#338) attempted to bomb your structures! You killed 1860 enemy spies.

7.6 hours ago
Enemy operatives destroyed 11 buildings!

7.6 hours ago
Enemy operatives destroyed 11 buildings!

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ZOMBIE BANKS (#338) attempted to bomb your structures! You killed 1832 enemy spies.

7.6 hours ago
Enemy operatives destroyed 11 buildings!

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Enemy operatives destroyed 11 buildings!

7.6 hours ago
ZOMBIE BANKS (#338) attempted to bomb your structures! You killed 1803 enemy spies.

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Enemy operatives destroyed 10 buildings!

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Enemy operatives destroyed 10 buildings!

7.6 hours ago
Enemy operatives destroyed 10 buildings!

7.6 hours ago
ZOMBIE BANKS (#338) attempted to bomb your structures! You killed 1779 enemy spies.

7.6 hours ago
Enemy operatives destroyed 10 buildings!

7.6 hours ago
ZOMBIE BANKS (#338) attempted to bomb your structures! You killed 1749 enemy spies.

7.6 hours ago
ZOMBIE BANKS (#338) attempted to bomb your structures! You killed 1717 enemy spies.

7.6 hours ago
ZOMBIE BANKS (#338) attempted to bomb your structures! You killed 1685 enemy spies.

7.6 hours ago
Enemy operatives destroyed 10 buildings!

7.6 hours ago
Enemy operatives destroyed 10 buildings!

7.6 hours ago
ZOMBIE BANKS (#338) attempted to bomb your structures! You killed 1660 enemy spies.

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ZOMBIE BANKS (#338) attempted to bomb your structures! You killed 1629 enemy spies.

7.6 hours ago
Enemy operatives destroyed 10 buildings!

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Enemy operatives destroyed 10 buildings!

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Enemy operatives destroyed 10 buildings!

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Enemy operatives destroyed 9 buildings!

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Enemy operatives destroyed 9 buildings!

7.6 hours ago
ZOMBIE BANKS (#338) attempted to bomb your structures! You killed 1614 enemy spies.

7.6 hours ago
Enemy operatives destroyed 9 buildings!

7.6 hours ago
ZOMBIE BANKS (#338) attempted to bomb your structures! You killed 1587 enemy spies.

7.6 hours ago
Enemy operatives destroyed 9 buildings!

7.6 hours ago
ZOMBIE BANKS (#338) attempted to bomb your structures! You killed 1561 enemy spies.

7.6 hours ago
ZOMBIE BANKS (#338) attempted to bomb your structures! You killed 1533 enemy spies.

7.6 hours ago
Enemy operatives destroyed 9 buildings!

7.6 hours ago
ZOMBIE BANKS (#338) attempted to bomb your structures! You killed 1508 enemy spies.

7.6 hours ago
Enemy operatives destroyed 9 buildings!

7.6 hours ago
ZOMBIE BANKS (#338) attempted to bomb your structures! You killed 1483 enemy spies.

7.6 hours ago
ZOMBIE BANKS (#338) attempted to bomb your structures! You killed 1456 enemy spies.

7.6 hours ago
Enemy operatives destroyed 9 buildings!

7.6 hours ago
ZOMBIE BANKS (#338) attempted to bomb your structures! You killed 1433 enemy spies.

7.6 hours ago
Enemy operatives destroyed 9 buildings!

7.6 hours ago
Enemy operatives destroyed 9 buildings!

7.6 hours ago
ZOMBIE BANKS (#338) attempted to bomb your structures! You killed 1413 enemy spies.

7.6 hours ago
ZOMBIE BANKS (#338) attempted to bomb your structures! You killed 1387 enemy spies.

7.6 hours ago
ZOMBIE BANKS (#338) attempted to bomb your structures! You killed 1362 enemy spies.

7.6 hours ago
ZOMBIE BANKS (#338) attempted to bomb your structures! You killed 1338 enemy spies.

7.6 hours ago
ZOMBIE BANKS (#338) attempted to bomb your structures! You killed 1314 enemy spies.

7.6 hours ago
ZOMBIE BANKS (#338) attempted to bomb your structures! You killed 1290 enemy spies.

7.6 hours ago
ZOMBIE BANKS (#338) attempted to bomb your structures! You killed 1267 enemy spies.

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ZOMBIE BANKS (#338) attempted to bomb your structures! You killed 1245 enemy spies.

7.6 hours ago
Enemy operatives destroyed 9 buildings!

Hmmm

Silent explosions.

DID YOU MAKE MULTIPLE UNPROVOKED AGGRESSIVE ACTIONS AGAINST THIS SUPPLICANNT OF THE MIGHTY CLAN [DANGER]!? WE KNOW THAT YOU DID!

YOU DISGUST US!

MAYBE NEXT TIME, DON'T HIT SOMEBODY 15 TIMES.

JUST A SUGGESTION.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E929gqIcwwI

Danger is nothing but a single player multie trying to hide under an "Alliance" designation.

I have no idea why it was included in the EWPP in the first place

Outside of occasionally posting up what a few Earth players may find as entertaining posts...he serves no useful purpose in this game

DANGERs ain't multies, if they were they would be bigger than that what they currently are and would get purpled.

Not really

You play one country from your home IP address

You play one country from your iPhone with satellite connection

You play one country from your work computer

That's 3 countries that can play undetected with little effort at all

And the list goes on and on....

The donut shop wifi connection where you take your daily coffee break

Etc. etc.

I fully endorse the decision the committee that until recently was one makes

Seconded

Thirded

The fact they have been around, what, 2 yrs now? Have shown that they dont LG unless provoked, they have showed they can ruin many countries when provoked.. thats why they get UNEP's and pacts.

The entertainment factor is just a plus

I would have to see the news, but according to the EWPP a Single act like you have stated could bring in the EWPP. A lot of it also depends on the alliance doing the attacks after retails and were they unprovoked. Is it the alliance or just a single target who is doing these acts of aggression.

TBH I would really need to see the news.

--Definition of a fair offer:

---Offending alliance detags and kills the suicider ASAP

---Offending alliance makes an offer within 48 hours, to pay fair reps by the formula below to the victim, and payment must take no more than 96 hours unless the victim allows for an extended window.

----Reps in terms of tanks. Accepted rates for reps are as follows: 300tpa first month. 1 tank=3 jets/turrets = 4 troops = $550. Reps for tech points lost will be $3300 per tech point in the first month.

-----If a special attack (other than NM, which is calculated as above) is used and reps are owed, then $60,000 per building is owed in the first month. Military lost will be returned with 10% extra. Stock lost will be returned with 10% extra as well.


-If a country or alliance commits an Extreme Act of War against another and there is no independent resolution, the offending alliance, as a result of this resolution, automatically declares war on all signatories of this resolution.

I would use this part of it right here, if you cant get any type of deal make with the other alliance then you should message either Colonel Chaos, Tella, Myself.

oth: do you really think that if SAM DANGER would run multiple countries he would run only 3 not 30?

I also believe that would be considered an act of war if the offending alliance doesnt wish to deal with reps etc...and I think there is a statement that you can war if you give so many hours notice? Forgive me its been a long while since i opened that thread

Danger has been cleared many many many times. They are not multies.

Missiles aren't retals. That said, a point could be made that "hypothetically" Titans has violated the EWPP and could be EXPLODED.

Danger are definitely not multies. I know who they all are. I only went that far to put the incessant multy reporting against them to bed. Either that or someone can travel at the speed of light and be multiple people at once.

As for EWPP and whatever else.. fluff u.
:P

Taking too much notice of what the EWPP says is a mistake.

The signatories don't.

I guess it could have been re-worded since last set to bring what it says closer to what it means, but that would involve labour and no one has had the time or inclination.

Happily its day is nearly done.

If the agreement should be repeated in future sets a much simpler wording will be a good idea.

Danger if you issues with an alliance maybe you should contact them. Just a thought.

The #EWPP has talked and we will not be taking any action in this case. There are wrongs by both parties here in over land grabbing and retailing with missiles. We as that the two alliances find away to sort out this issue between the both of them.

the sexy clan DANGER are no multies, SAM_DANGER is definitely very unique and stuff ... quite original ! :D

WE DID, IN FACT, SPEND SEVERAL HOURS ON IRC HOPING TO RESOLVE THINGS TO EVERYONE'S SATISFACTION.

AND TO BE CLEAR, WE DID NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE ALLIANCE AS A WHOLE, AND IN FACT WE LIKE THEM QUITE A BIT. WE'RE PRACTICALLY BFF'S. WE HAD AN ISSUE WITH ONE MEMBER. I BELIEVE THAT ISSUE HAS NOW BEEN SETTLED (OR CLOSE TO IT) AND WE ARE BACK TO OUR USUAL PEACE-LOVING WAYS.

AND TO CLARIFY ONE OTHER THING... WE WERE NOT HOPING FOR ACTION BY THE EWPP SIGNATORIES. THE PURPOSE OF THIS POST WAS TO FIND OUT WHAT OPTIONS WE HAD AVAILABLE TO US, IF WE WISHED TO AVOID RUNNING AFOUL OF THE EWPP.

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

If you guys want to take action on your own to take care of this situation just let us know that it is mutual on both sides that a war is going to be needed to rectify the situation

That is very generous WArriOR. I am sure the clans concerned are pleased to know they have your qualified permission.

On the other hand

I BELIEVE THAT ISSUE HAS NOW BEEN SETTLED (OR CLOSE TO IT) AND WE ARE BACK TO OUR USUAL PEACE-LOVING WAYS.

rather suggests your opportunity to have your magnanimity begged has been frustrated this time.

Better luck next time.

damn, I agree with Furious999

Must be fun, living in your own imaginary world.

You know that people often communicate about this game outside of the forums, right?

But please, keep yapping. You remind me of my neighbors chihuahua that I always wanted to punt....

Lol Furious....

Love you too man