Anyone need a program made that calculates anything? I know there's attack calculators already out there.

One to calculate the market LOL, I chose bad set to tech on tsk tsk 😭

Haha...Anything you could use in terms of the wiki formulas so you don't have to manually type in the whole formula.

IRR

and compound interest actually

um.. yes.. when its best for an all explore rep to meet its landgoal and begin cashing.. when does the benefit of cashing outweigh the benefit of further exploring?

um.. no idea ifthis will work slash is doable

What do you mean by IRR?

It is, but I would need the best startup strat for a casher (first 300 turns).

Definately a bad tech set. massive amt of tech stucked.

45,000 Residential on sale for $x each
45,000 Business on sale for $x each
47,070 Military on sale for $x each
90,000 Military on sale for $x each
92,831 Agricultural on sale for $x each
48,946 Industrial on sale for $x each
116,555 Business on sale for $x each
110,898 Residential on sale for $x each
42,428 Weapons on sale for $x each

Compared to alot of techers each week, i attack very little, taking big grabs and having high bpt.. Goal is 15k acres by about turn 1050.. (Only successful once ).. How high a bpt is too high for 15k acres? Also, once retals come into play, at what turn count (if any) is it worth abandoning land goal and start stocking? Probly depends on market, but thats what i experiment with week to week with limited success.

Also, based on spy ops i do on other techers, i think im teching a bit much a t lower acreage, but how else to have the jets/oil for mid-feeding? Maybe its just inferior to bottom-feeding?

food hasn't exactly been peachy. granted it is a bit early

I got to 17k acres by turn 930 with couple of retals/hits at the start. Better for you to bottomfeed than mid feed. Mid feeding might risk in retals. and when you get retaled as a techer, it really hurts more than other strat.

Thats just a bunch of questions, not sure if theres anything to do with them

Will try that next week perhaps.. Thanks h20

sqr root(15000/4) best BPT is 61.

However, keep in mind that number would actually be smaller since you're not building exclusively CS from start.

Optimum bpt is based on the formula, sqrt(land to be built/4)
As a techer , you would like to get your bpt up before you do any grabbing. So for example you are at 1k acres, your land goal is 15k, and you might have around 1k indies for spies, in total you will have to build 14k + conver 1k indies = 15k acres, so your optimum bpt is about 61. Go higher if you think you might get hit or get retalled.

Generally as a techer in express, you would want to start stocking for half of the set, turn 950-1000 onwards.

Celphi, I believe all techers get to their optimum bpt before anything else in all servers except primary due to the fact if you concentrated too much on bpt at the start you might fall behind and never climb up again due to the low turn count.

the actual formula for bpt is Sqr(AcresToBuild*GvtConstrBonus/4) , so if you're a theo wanting to build 15k acres, thats sqrt(15k*1.4/4) = 72 and for a 15k dict, thats sqrt(15k*0.7/4) = 51.

How do you pay for the buildings if you go all CS first? I was thinking if you spend a few turns on bldgs to generate $ that your BPT would be slightly below 61.

Also, I thought the bonuses are applied to the CS formula rather than the BPT.

of course, you need to have some farms or indies at the start like 300-400 to fund for your buildings at 2k land.

I didnt know of a CS formula.

I usually start of building a ton of CS and one or two turns of farms until I hit my BPT goal

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Actually that's wrong.

This is it:

BPT = ((CS / 4) + 5)(govt bonus)

OR

CS = ((BPT*4) - 20)/(gvt bonus)

So for 15k acres..

Sqrt(15k/4) = 61

CS = (61*4) - 20)/(1.4) = 160

160 CS is max CS NEEDED for theo for 15k
224 CS is max CS NEEDED for other gvt for 15k
320 CS is max CS NEEDED for dictator for 15k

That's wrong..


The following exact formulas is used to determine BPT. Current Dictatorship has a bonus factor of 0.7 and Theocracy 1.4.
BPT = RoundOff( RoundDown(CS/4 + 5) * GvtConstrBonus )
This might look like a mess to you with rounding off and down, so the following quick formula is provided to give a close estimate.
BPT = (CS/4 + 5) * GvtContrBonus
During the course of your Earth career, you will almost invariably wonder what is the Ideal BPT to build supposing you wish to build a certain amount of acres. The Ideal BPT formula is obtained after differentiating the following simplified formula, and then equating the result to 0 to find the minimum point.
Turns to build = CS + AcresToBuild/BPT
Turns to build = (BPT/GvtConstrBonus - 5)*4 + AcresToBuild/BPT
Turns to build = 4/GvtConstrBonus*BPT - 20 + AcresToBuild*(BPT)-1
d(turns)/d(BPT) = 4/GvtConstrBonus - AcresToBuild*(BPT)-2
Equating this to 0:
0 = 4/GvtConstrBonus - AcresToBuild*(BPT)-2
AcresToBuild*(BPT)-2 = 4/GvtConstrBonus
AcresToBuild*GvtConstrBonus/4 = (BPT)2
BPT = Sqr(AcresToBuild*GvtConstrBonus/4)
Ideal BPT = SquareRoot( AcresToBuild * GvtConstrBonus / 4 )

So what would be the max BPT for:

Dictator / theo / all other govt for 15k land? Using the correct formulas?

I'm going to assume your post was meant for my deleted post.

no our formula differs. I'll post more when I go home tonight

I'm confused.

Because if I make 3 differ govt on FFA:

If I were to use:
BPT = ((CS / 4) + 5)(govt bonus)

OR

CS = ((BPT*4) - 20)/(gvt bonus)

they all check out.

Your CS formula is incorrect

CS = (BPT*4/(gvt bonus))-20

government is a factor when calculating ur optimum bpt

you do not want to build 320 CS as a dict to build 15k acres..

I am too lazy to work through the arithmetic.

But I suspect my subconscious is not so lazy. Because I play Theo techer and find myself with a 62 bpt most of the time.

Yeah that's it. I copied it wrong.

But using Curry's formula you get 328CS

CS = (BPT*4/(gvt bonus))-20
CS = (61*4/.7))-20 = 328

i overlooked this ^^^

Thanks.

Can you explain what the -1 & -2 represent?

^-1 and ^-2 to be clearer

sorry, the forums couldnt read the small font for to the power of -1 and -2

Ok thanks. I'm just going to plug these formulas into a program so I don't make math errors anymore.

Btw, which one returns more land?
Assuming neither go over the max ghost acres.

Tyranny + max MS tech (though I know you multiply the gains 120% * 140%)
Vs
Dictator + max MS tech

I need to find the ghost acre formula

http://www.earthempires.com/...t-acres-2837?t=1358645838
http://www.earthempires.com/...set-16-31864?t=1415378479 <--point 4.

Thnx